All that being said John, here is my take. If I was going to build a scalable enterprise ria system I could:
go with laszlo to try and save some money and hope to god I didn't have to purchase support and with using cfm or any language to feed the beast I would still have to add all the extra code to create and maintain the xml code which will be needed to run laszlo and also spend more cash to build up better servers with more hardware to accomodate the extra overhead that using xml creates and keep a good dev staff on board to try and keep it scaling with demand. or go with flex and say good ridence to all or mostly all of the xml and use remoting which will make the app faster with conciderably less overhead and eliminatethe whole xml part of it which could be HUGE, which saves time, money, resources, costs and when it needs to scale its a piece of cake since you dont have all the extra worries of also scaling the xml system as well. Not to mention the support factor or the speed at which the apps will run will be enormous by using the current flash player and remoting. To me it would see as if you'd end up spending a lot more money with laszlo for the same app and it will run slower and be less responsive, I don't see the good in that. However, For some small things it looks nice :) BUT!!!! If MM or Adobe decides to drop the price or run it on shared servers or do a sliding price scale then you are in for a world of hurt. I'm not saying I don't like laszlo cause I do but the reality is that when you break down the 2, flex absolutely crushes it. ~Dave the disruptor~ "A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation." ---------------------------------------- From: John Olmstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:31 PM To: CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> Subject: Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex >> What Bryan was asking Laszlo for was a collection of example using CF >> with a Laszlo app. None of the demos provide that, so he's asked them to >> work some up and send them out. > I think I can help Bryan out here. Laszlo was built primarily for the presentation layer of application development. To that use, it has features that make it a powerful and compelling environment for client application development. Features of the Laszlo language include data binding, constraints, events, delegation, extensibility, ECMAScript, layouts,... plus all the features you'd expect in a media rich client development language. Laszlo does not provide a middleware solution. However, since it uses standards such as XML over HTTP, SOAP, and XML-RPC, it can be used with ANY sever technology that supports these standards, including ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, JSP, Java servlets, SOAP, RPC, CGI,... etc. To build your this layer in ColdFusion, you would need to create a ColdFusion script that responds to an HTTP request, extracting info from the query string, querying a data base, and returning the data as XML. That said, I have not developed in ColdFusion for some years, and currently do not own a license for the server, so I am not able to provide any examples. However, I do know that ColdFusion provides tags to perform all of the necessary functions. There are many good tutorials on ColdFusion available on the web, and any experienced ColdFusion developer should be able to implement XML services with ease. John Olmstead Software Engineer Laszlo Systems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214678 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
