Don't pick on cf developers. Eveyone else is the same, why do you think PHP has such a big community. Altho what does suck, is that no-one gives anything away for FREE in CF. Thus why we have millions of free PHP/ASP scripts and like 2 free cf scripts. There is only 1 free cf forum I know of, and ALL cf forums free or not, are crap compared to the PHP/ASP solutions.
Russ -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 August 2005 00:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced would you like it to come with your name etched in gold on the cd and the box customized with your pic and have it hand delivered to your door and only include the features you want in it. And if they did and you had to pay more than a nickle for it you'd still bitch about it. It was funny the other night at our cfug we were talking about how frickin cheap cfm developers are, whining and crying if they gotta spend more than a buck for anything and its so true!!! Most of you are even too cheap to buy one of Wills cfm shirts and show your support, I mean really, It's PATHETIC, people be ashamed of yourselfs because this is what hurts our community. If WIll made PHP or Flash or .crap shirts they'd be all bought up in a heart beat. Lets be real you guys make good money but you act so broke, come on!!!!!!!!! We figured in our our area (denver) that $45 an hour was fairly low for cfm dev'r too make. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I may whine about ms but at least I spent money on it and therefore have a reason but this crap with you guys bitching about stuff and it not being free is really lame...... " but now it costs too much money." So you make multi-million dollar apps but can't spend a couple of bucks on something that helps you make a living??? Or you cant take 5 minutes to download the plugins you want? btw~ doesnt rob have a package download for cfm? Thats pathetic period!!! ~Dave the disruptor~ "A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation." ---------------------------------------- From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:31 AM To: CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced But does that zip contain a full IDE implementing the list I mentioned? I haven't seen one yet. When someone stands up, and builds an installer encapsulating this all you have a winner, but now it costs too much money. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- -----Original Message----- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 9 augustus 2005 9:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced Installer? What can simpler than downloading a zip - unzip it, copy it to a folder and click on Eclipse.exe - no reg keys, not added bloat. -----Original Message----- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 August 2005 20:55 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced The lack of a descent one in all installer is currently holding back Eclipse. People don't have the time to go through the entire process, of downloading Eclipse, downloading the Web toolkit, downloading the prequisites of that toolkit, downloading CFEclipse, etc. If they managed to put this all into one package, so that you get easily started with an Eclipse installation where you can edit xml,xsl,javascript,(x)html,css,cfml,php without going to that proces. And maybe it is there already, and I just did not searched good enough ;) As far as DW 8 concerned. For me personally the real good feature is code collapse, but I hope they didn't took the CFStudio/Homesite codebase for this functionality, because everybody who used it in those old products, knows that when you collapsed a large amount of code, scrolling the document was a pain in the ass. So at least I hope that they did look at this "feature". I like the enhanced compliance tests showed in the demo on the MM site, but for some reason I hope for more. Like that they - fixed the numerous issues involved with the treeview in DWMX - crashes when searching through folders with find & replace (and they occured on specific xml files) - showing the directory path of a occurence within search results so that I might now which one of the 1001 index.cfm's in the results belongs to which project. - step into, just like Eclipse has on folders - enabling selection and printing of the reference inside DW - fixing the lookup of selections on search - split code view, like cfstudio had - breakdown of cfc's in a project If they at least payed attention to the treeview they have a buyer, but I hope they improve the support of the product. I don't understand why there haven't been released more updaters for DWMX 2004. I hope they pay more attention to existing customers :) Micha ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. 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