Mark, very well said.  You might also include that it's not just a
particular word or words that can offend, but even how ordinary words
are used, what context they are used in.


On 8/15/05, Mark A Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My .02 on the language issue....
> 
> In my view what qualifies as objectionable language varies from person to
> person, but the level of objectionableness should NOT be determined by the
> person doing the "saying" but by the person required to listen.  It takes so
> very little to be civil... why not just accommodate everyone.  In most cases
> swearing and foul language is an attempt to bully and shock - or a
> substitute for thoughtful articulation.
> 
> If you, as another human being, say to me, "I find that word offensive."
> Then I find it pretty easy to say, "that's cool - I won't use it anymore
> where you are forced to hear it." Seems like a pretty easy compromise to me.
> In fact, I find this effort so trifling that I suspect folks that rise up in
> defense of their "right to hurl the f-bomb" are probably unwilling to give
> ground in any situation.  This smacks of an attitude that puts personal
> freedoms and rights above personal responsibility, engaged community and
> civility.
> 
> This list hosts folks of all different persuasions, faiths, nationalities
> and backgrounds. It seems to me to be the minimum effort to simply not use
> profanity - or at the very least to respond with respect and contrition when
> someone takes offense. It's not as if writing to the list is the same as
> shooting off your mouth and saying something offensive due to indiscretion.
> You have to actually think about what you are typing.  Why offend people on
> purpose?  Does it help explain your CF problem or it's solution? Does it
> encourage anyone - or even constructively criticize?  I'm not a prude
> either - I just find it without merit... useless. Why turn people off?
> What's the point exactly? I have yet to hear a compelling argument.
> 
> Mostly, folks just comment on how "unreasonable" people are who get
> offended - which is just an attempt to enforce the lowest common denominator
> in the group dynamic. We are a long way from high school folks. We are all
> old enough to know that the world is a lot bigger than our little slice of
> it - and the more we learn the more we realize how little we actually know.
> There's no reason why, on a list as divers as this, a higher standard should
> not prevail.
> 
> -mk
> 
> Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
> www.cfwebtools.com
> www.necfug.com
> http://mkruger.cfwebtools.com

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