Vince, I think the challenge here is because Sean's actual statement from his blog entry here: http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm?do=blog.entry&entry=63258CAB-F397-B096-2B 39932484397145 is:
"So, in fact, the highest traffic ColdFusion site in the world is (mostly) running on Macromedia ColdFusion 5, a four year old product, two major releases behind the times!" Which is not blatantly false nor a distortion of the 'facts', but precisely what you've been saying. Unless I'm missing something obvious? It may be a distortion of the 'message' that this is an success story technically (which it may yet be, and probably can be considered to be from a sales perspective), but that 'message' (if that's the intended message) seems a bit premature. And that's part of the point of the blog entry I think. To clarify what I mean, if you are referring to the site in its entirety, it is not running BD, but mostly CF5, which appears to be most of the disconnect here. The statement "myspace.com is running BD" implies that it is doing so in its entirety. The reality is that it is *not* running BD [exclusivity implied], but running CF5 for the most part with a few applications (one confirmed) on BD and (one confirmed) on .NET. This seems to be an example of where sales presentation meets technical examination and results in not unexpected dissonance. I think there is little point in mischaracterizing the comments when the disagreement appears to be about presentation more so than 'facts'. - Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: bg & myspace Right. And where is that inconsistent with anything that was said in any of the other references I gave? When did I or anyone at New Atlanta say the entire MySpace web server farm has already been migrated to BD.NET? Here are some quotes, starting with the original press release: "MySpace is switching to BlueDragon.NET to improve the performance and reliability..." "New Atlanta has just announced that MySpace.com, the world's busiest ColdFusion-based web site, is switching to BlueDragon.NET..." "At the Friday keynote session at CFUNITED-05, Peter Amiri, Director of Technical Operations for MySpace.com, gave an informative and entertaining presentation about the history and growth of MySpace, and the reasons why the site is being migrated to BlueDragon.NET..." And from Rey Bango's original post to CF-Talk: "In a huge coup, my boys at New Atlanta have won a MAJOR deal and are helping MySpace.com, the fifth most heavily trafficked web site on the Internet, make the switch from Macromedia ColdFusion 5.0 to New Atlanta's BlueDragon for .NET" http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid:40946# 210707 Note the quotes, "...is switching to..." and "...is being migrated to...". The fact is that the contract had been signed, the commitment had been made, and the switch to BlueDragon.NET had already started at the time of our announcement (and is continuing). Our message has been entirely truthful and consistent from the very beginning. There are some people who want to distort our message and discredit MySpace and New Atlanta, and have from the very moment our announcement was made. There's nothing I can do about that. Vince > -----Original Message----- > From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:56 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: bg & myspace > > I think this is the relevant part: > > "That's not true, Sean. Most of the site is still running CF5--it's > going to take several weeks (months, maybe) to convert the entire > site. The problems you're seeing are due to CF5 and are the reason the > site it being upgraded to BD.NET. You'll know the upgrade to BD.NET is > complete when these problems go away. > > Posted By Vince Bonfanti at 7/29/05 9:37 AM" > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:41 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: bg & myspace > > Sean's statement that MySpace is "not (running) BlueDragon" > is blatantly, factually false. Here is New Atlanta's original press > release about MySpace: > > http://www.newatlanta.com/corporate/news/myspace_announce.jsp > > Here is my original blog entry regarding the announcement (sorry for > the wrap-around URLs): > > > http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=764C1F4A > -89D7-A61A-F9F > 71128027172A7 > > Here is my blog entry that summarizes the CFUNITED keynote, along with > a link to the original PowerPoint presentation: > > > http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=DCE930CB > -C4BB-BCD4-66A > E12F14C9315A7 > > Here is Doug Hughes' blog entry on which I made comments to which Sean > is > referring: > > http://www.doughughes.net/index.cfm/page-blogLink/entryId-116 > > Anyone who really wants to know what's going on with MySpace and > BlueDragon.NET should read the original source materials. > > Vince > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:27 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: bg & myspace > > > > I believe that Dave is referring to this blog post from Sean about > > Myspace still using CF 5: > > http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm?do=blog.entry&entry=63258CA > > B-F397-B096-2B39932484397145 > > > > > MySpace is running BlueDragon.NET and has been since prior to our > > > announcement. 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