Thanks Matt!  I'll implement some of this and check out your site.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails


On 8/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What numbers are you using to stay under the radar? x per hour? x per 
minute?

The trickler built into my CMS defaults to 5 messages every 5 seconds. That 
is a burst of 5. A wait of 5 seconds then another burst of 5. Counting the 
trip to the client and back to run it you're really looking at about 7 
seconds, which is good because... This is optimal for a CF server that is 
set to flush the mail spool every 5 seconds. Since the mail comes in at a 
roughly slower rate you never back up mail in the spooler.

If you don't tune the CF Admin setting (or optimize to whatever its set to 
by your mail host) then you aren't getting max bang for your buck. If, for 
example, CF is set to flush every 30 seconds then at my 5/5 default CF is 
going to pump out 30 messages from your mailer each time (assuming its not 
too busy to get everything out... you never know on a shared server). Even 
so I would still use the 5/5 because it provides continual feedback to the 
client side. Plus I've found over time that taking it in nibbles is better 
than bites. 

The tutorial for building one of these is on my web site. If you look it 
over, try and use the one that introduces failover, as the original is a 
real mess if it gets interrupted.

For lists in excess of 10k maybe you need to take bites. What I have done is 
run a fairly complex method of automatically running large mailings directly 
in a browser window on the server, where nobody cares if the browser window 
is open for 2 hours. I think I have that written up at the site as well.

Never think that this method is efficient. Its way over on the opposite 
side. But the mail gets delivered. The only way you can get tripped up is if 
you have a rotten list,with genuinely bad addresses. Your mail server will 
slowly build up retries on your garbage addresses until you do get noticed. 
So be sure to pay attention to and scrub your bounces.

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