On 9/8/05, Anthony Prato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am pretty set on subversion already, my problem's been getting the > developers to break their bad habits. The process here seems to be > someone talks about a bug or something they don't like. A programmer > jumps on it with very little planning and starts coding. They think it > works, through it into production. I can't tell you how bad my stomach > turns when they say "lets just see what breaks" when referring to > putting things in production. And unfortunately these habits aren't > yet seen as problems by management either. I know its not pretty but I > need something for damage control until I can get a handle on things > here. >
One possible strategy is to pitch the management on implementing a build system -- automating deployments with Ant for example. It's pretty trivial to set up those Ant scripts and there's easy-to-understand benefits "deploy in moments", "quickly create a bug fix release", etc. If they buy in, then you can add the "oh, the code needs to be in source control...." and the problem can fix itself. A similar approach is to put in continuous build tools (which it sounds like you really need if that's how dev works in this group), like CruiseControl for example. That makes the dev folks see immediately how changes affected the site and also requires source control. Basically, I'm suggesting that you might be able to find a development practice to implement that *can* get buyin that just happens to requires using source control. I've found that can be more successful than simply saying "Thou shalt use source control" -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217779 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
