Sounds like div's would work well in creating access to data with scrolling up and down a page and without using scrolling frames.
The browser compatibility wouldn't be an issue if I'm working on an app for a company that standardizes on a certain browser. For general public consumption, I may just stick to widely-acceptable CSS or just use tables. And...I agree about Flash...I've tried to use every version that has come out and never get past the 30-day demo stage...just too much of a learning curve. I'm familiar with a timeline, too, because I do video editing all the time. It *might* be worth it, *if* I didn't have to learn a new language, too (actionscript), to use Flash...not enough benefit that I can see. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 3:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying Dynamic Data? divs can provide some neat functionality that tables don't do. You can nest divs, you can move them around dynamically (e.g. drag them with a mouse), you can give them absolute positioning- there are lots of neat layout features in divs. one of the things I tried to do in my webmail UI was create a desktop paradigm, where the browser's scrollbar never comes into play. You can do that by making a div a certain size and then setting the overflow property to scroll. (There is some extra work for FF to have only the vertical scrollbar in the div appear). In FF, I have managed to build the basis for the desktop style UI, but as others have pointed out in this discussion, browsers have different implementations of CSS standards, so you end up back in the 1997 days of having multiple solutions for your UI. That part sucks. And hey, Flash does that part far better than CSS, but as a developer Flash is extremely frustrating to work with, IMHO. I haven't tried Flex or Lazlo yet, though I have done a little CFFORM stuff. >I'm using tables for layout at this point exclusively...seems to work fine. > >What advantages do the div's bring to the specific areas of your layouts >that tables wouldn't or couldn't... > >Rick > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Soultanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:18 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying >Dynamic Data? > > >Yeah, CSS is by far the most superior method to giving yourself the >biggest headache ever imaginable. I've been doing A LOT of css research >and I am still going to use a large table for general layout and then >divs within that. Don't get me wrong, css for styling is great, it just >sucks for positioning. I am still very hesitant about using css for >positioning as it just doesn't work right in all browsers. > >I look at big sites like mail.yahoo.com. Those guys are doing some of >the most advanced CSS I've seen out there, yet they still use tables for >general layout because they don't want to deal with CSS positioning >nightmares. > >Want to further that headache, visit: >http://www.css-discuss.org/ > >enjoy! >Mike > > >Rick Faircloth wrote: >a >> CSS world, they serve a purpose (to display tabular data). >> prior shortcomings in browsers meant that they were used for layout, >which ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:217838 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
