Hi Russ, I know is annoying when you ask question A and people just want to bang on about something else.....but :-)
The setup of developers sandboxes was also seen by us as a barrier - and originally we rejected this appraoch. However after another year of struggling, we then adopted it with great success! Is it really difficult to setup IIS? You just need the windows install disk? And CF developers edition? download, install and you're done in 20minutes or less. I agree that copies of databases can be more difficult but have you considered either a local access database to mirror the main one or have you looked at querysims (simulate database query results)? I would also say that you should have only one repository having more than one will just complicate matters. MikeT On 9/26/05, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, the copy of the code is on the dev server, and each developer edits > the > code directly using ftp. As we are a small shop, we have not had a lot of > issues with people messing up each other's code. I am fine with all the > code being on the same server. > > We have some people working remotely, and having the code on each > developers > laptop would be fairly hard to set up (we need to install iis, coldfusion, > and then the database would probably be an issue, as we'd have to access > it > over the internet.) Although this would be possible in theory, it is > probably out of our reach for the time being. I am more worried about not > having a copy of the development branch in a repository until someone is > ready to deploy the code. We've had issues where the file was saved as a 0 > byte file and work had to start from the beginning or at least from an > older > backup. > > Is anyone using the setup I'm talking about? I.e. Everything you save the > file through webdav, it goes into the repository and gets put into the > file > system at the same time. Once we're ready to deploy stuff, it goes into a > different repository (production). Is this setup even possible? What I've > read so far leads me to believe that it is, but I wanted to see if anyone > is > using it this way and if there are any gotchas, etc.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 12:44 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: source control setup > > If I understand you correctly, you've got each developer with a copy > of the source on their workstation, and then they FTP it to the dev > server? That's a bad way to do it; you should have a working copy > per-developer, and keep them synchronized with svn, rather than using > FTP (since as you say, you can easily overwrite stuff). If you > overwrite something with svn, which is very difficult to do > accidentally, you can always get it back, because everything is > versioned. This will also alleviate the need to use webdav directly. > > Second, you need to check out branches. Branches let you do parallel > development, so if someone needs to go off in some new direction, they > can create a branch that doesn't interfere with anyone else (or the > production code), and then when they're all done, the branch's changes > can be merged back into the main line of development. The benefit is > that while workin gon the branch, you can commit to the repository, so > you won't ever lose anything. > > cheers, > barneyb > > On 9/26/05, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tried posting this on Friday, but it never seemed to have made it > through: > > > > > > > > We're already using subversion pretty successfully on our servers, but > the > > way we're using it, we're running into a few problems. > > > > > > > > We have a dev server, which has the production tree checked out, with > > development changes made straight on the server through ftp. Once the > code > > is ready to be deployed, it gets committed to the repository, and then > the > > svn update is run on the production server (which also has the > production > > tree checked out). > > > > > > > > Now, if there is some code that is worked on for a long time, or never > gets > > approved to be deployed, then we have code sitting on development for a > long > > time and never being in source control. Sometimes ftp will screw up and > > overwrite the file, and all the changes get lost. > > > > > > > > I heard that it's possible to set up svn with webdav through apache. Is > it > > possible to have a set up where we are editing files through webdav or > > something, and every time we save it gets saved to the development > branch > or > > repository and also gets updated in the file system? Then once we're > ready > > to deploy, we would commit it to the production repository as usual. > > > > > > > > Also what editors support webdav? Homesite doesn't seem to support it, > and > > I've been using CFEclipse lately, which is a little buggy with the ftp > > support, but I'm assuming there is a webdav plugin for it somewhere. Is > it > > possible to set it up through windows somehow? I read something about > web > > folders, but have not been able to figure out how to set it up in XP > Pro. > > > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > -- > Barney Boisvert > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 360.319.6145 > http://www.barneyb.com/ > > Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. 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