On 10/7/05, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe it goes more like "We don't serve French fries here, but [snip]
Can you equate that to the inclusion of web services in CFMX? You know they use the apache axis engine. Talk about getting the menu from the neighbors and tacking it onto your bill, what about Verity? Is that really a necessity for CF to function. No, but it sells. I see the features argument a little differently than you. Let's talk about the CF platform and its parent, Java, versus the Java platform and its parent, whatever it was written in, c or assembly or what have you, i don't know. CF is compiled through its parent to run on the JRE. Java is compiled through its parent to run on different OSes. CF has a loose collection of organized tags and functions, pre-written code that saves you time by shortcutting and tying together capabilities of its parent. Java has the java library, an organized collection of useful objects that save you time by shortcutting and tying together capabilities of its parent. CF exposes its parent by wrapping it in easy-to-use tags & functions. Java exposes its parent by wrapping it in easy-to-use objects. Without CF, you would have to write straight Java to get the job done. Without Java, you would have to write straight assembly or c++ to get the job done. CF allows developers to get around the complexities of collections (java.util.map, java.util.vector) by providing its own (struct, array). Java allows developers to get around the complexities of shifting bits and complex manipulations by providing built-in collection objects. Let's pretend CF has tags and functions for 50% of everything java provides, just in the base library. Why would CF provide us with simplifying collections, manipulating strings, regular expressions, IO and networking operations, mathematics, database connectivity and XML, but not provide us with just one more feature, simple image manipulation? Just a question to think about. Java already has the functionality there. It's built into the underlying platform. MM doesn't even have to shift bits and manually manage memory consumption, it's in Java. The fact that it hasn't been brought into the CF platform bewilders me. Maybe they're waiting for a release that they don't have enough cool, new features in. -nathan strutz http://www.dopefly.com/ On 10/7/05, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe it goes more like "We don't serve French fries here, but here is a > menu for the place next door, pick what you what, and we'll go and get it > for you. We'll even put it on the same bill... you'll never know that it > was from next door unless we told you." > > Now what you are asking is for them to put it on their own menu, but still > get it from next door without telling you. I mean, yea, it would be nice, > since you wouldn't have to look at the menu from the place next door, but I > think you're just being lazy :-P > > Russ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220437 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
