On 10/10/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's a fundamental difference between "targeted by hackers" and "used by > hackers". The former is bad, the latter not so much. If someone compromises > your machine and chooses to install an FTP server, his choice will be driven > by many of the same factors as my own in choosing what FTP server to use. > What works best?
Agreed on the difference, and maybe most of this debate has been semantic in nature. I was referring to "targeted by hackers". I apologize (to all involved) if I was not clear in that. > I use tools all the time that are "hacker tools", and I'm no hacker (in the > pejorative sense of the word, anyway). I use them because they do what I > need them to do, better than the alternatives. > > As for whether Serv-U allowed your machine to be hacked, are you sure that > was where the vulnerability was? Just because someone was using your FTP > server after your server was compromised, doesn't mean that it was > compromised through the FTP server. I did mention that I'm no system admin. I'd like to think I'm not terribly stupid, but I do recognize that I'm not a system admin and perhaps I left allowed some vulnerability to be exploited through my own lack of knowledge. However, as also mentioned, I've not had any similar issues with any FTP servers that I've used after this (nor did I have issues with any FTP servers that I had used prior). I do remember researching at that time and finding that Serv-U was targeted by hackers. I'm afraid that I'm going to have to ask you to take my word for that, as I don't find any similar condemning evidence today. Could be because (as Dan stated) current (and/or recent) versions have not had the vulnerabilities of older versions. But as [insert deity of your choice here] is my witness, back then search results were pretty conclusive in suggesting that the application was *targeted* by hackers. Given the availability of alternatives today (bulletproof (or whatever it's current name is), Filezilla, etc), I'm going to adhere to the "once bitten twice shy" rule. -- Charlie Griefer ================================================ "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220588 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
