Thanks. That fits with what I already knew. 

Based both my own experience and yours regarding using SFTP over FTPS, it
makes me wonder why whenever there's a request for FTP servers
recommendation thread that it only includes servers that use FTPS.

Do most people just not use the security? I haven't seen many private
vendors requiring either FTPS or SFTP whereas here it's policy. 

I've been looking for an easy to administer server for home, but I want
secured transfers so this interest isn't just academic.

---
Kevin Graeme
Cooperative Extension Technology Services
University of Wisconsin-Extension
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:46 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: FTPS? (was RE: SFTP?)
> 
> FTPS is a file transport layer on top of SSL or TLS.  There 
> are number of options available with it and this can cause 
> problems: SSL v2 or v3 or TLS, implicit connection, passive 
> transfers, etc.  In my experience it can be quite tricky to 
> get the options all working correctly on both the server and 
> client if you have a firewall or two in the middle, I spent 
> quite some time this past summer trying to get a series of 
> servers working and ultimately gave up.  One of the problems 
> that I see with FTPS is that there are several fall-back 
> options usually available (sometimes required) which drop 
> communications back to an unsecured channel, which defeats 
> the purpose.
> 
> SFTP is a file transport layer on top of SSH, a protocol for 
> creating secure shell logins.  It is IMHO the most secure way 
> of doing transfers and is easiest to use from a network 
> management point of view because it all runs on one port 
> (#22) and there are no "drop back to unsecured transfers" 
> capabilities.
> 
> Whether my experiences with FTPS were actual problems or just 
> my lack of knowledge I can't say, I just got frustrated after 
> trying several server-client combinations and gave up in 
> favor of SSH which was pretty much install-and-go.
> 
> FYI there are both free SSH servers (OpenSSH on 
> UNIX/Linux/BSD/MacOSX and FreeSSHd on Windows) and clients 
> (oodles on UNIX, CoreFTP on
> Windows) available.
> 
> --
> Damien McKenna - Web Developer - 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - 
> http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include <stdjoke.h>
> 
> 
> 

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