M!ke, Is Plum a framework? Well, it is, and it isn't. I am going to pass this thread on to Adam and David to make sure I am not being blasphemous, but at it's simplest, without using any of the Plum custom tags or the IDE (which would be quite silly actually, as for chunks of most projects the IDE and custom tags are quite the time savers) plum is essentially a site wide security model and an easy, consistent way to incorporate your CSS model.
After you set-up your plum project, a process that takes about 15 min. and spend some time making the style sheets like you want them (Plum auto-generates a basestyleSheet.css, a large_TypeStyleSheet.css, a printStyleSheet.css, with both standard and alternate layouts as well as bottomNavBar.cfm, footer.cfm, Header.cfm, LeftNavBar.cfm and TopNavBar.cfm) The following two calls setup all your layout and Navigation (If you are curious, the default layouts are very similar to Adam and David's site www.productivityenhancement.com ): <cfmodule template="#Request.layout#/Header.cfm" pageType="pageType"> .... page code goes here .... <cfmodule template="#Request.layout#/Footer.cfm"> In between those two calls, you can stay within the "framework", meaning you use the plum custom tags, or you can put any other code you wish. Once one becomes familiar with the Plum tags, it will surely be a mix, some will be heavy on Plum, some will be light on Plum tags. As far as security goes, it can be done on the module, page, page section or just a line of code with the following call: cf_Authorize roles = "ROLE1,ROLE2,ROLEn" userMustBeAMemberOf = "AnyOfTheseRoles | AllOfTheseRoles"> So as you can see, Plum really is not a framework as most would define it...it is more like a methodology with a core set of files, functions, tags and an IDE thrown in for fun. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?) Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Plum a framework and, if so, will the security model be usable without a framework? M!ke -----Original Message----- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?) Check out Plum. www.productivityenhancement.com The next planned release is geared in this direction. Mark ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:221116 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

