Personally, I don't think that it would be good to go 00 at all.
After all there are very few people who ACTUALLY use 00 and I see this as a 2 
fold project, one to get us a good cart system and two to help get a few people 
over to cfm and lets be real, probably 95% of the people who would use this 
couldn't write their own cfc and sure it's easy to tell them to go learn but 
reality says they won't and they will go over to php and use a freebie over 
there.

Hell if it was strict 00 I probably wouldn't even use it!!

I agree it would be cool but I don't see a point in making it so 5% of the 
people could use it.
If you do that then might as well make it only operate on computes that are 
using 2 monitors.

If it's made decently then the "eletists" can spend a few hours on thier own 
and make it 00.

I think the important parts are that it should look good, be safe (form 
cleaning up and such), be secure and be able to plug it right in and have it 
work within a few minutes and have the ability for the programmer to customize 
it how they want without having to learn anything major and yes 00 is a major 
thing.

Cartweaver is a good example, you can plug it in and in a few minutes have it 
working but it's also $250 and not in cfcs and there are some security concerns 
but the example is good because you can just "use" it or customize it without 
learning 00 or fusebox or whatever.

And in these times where if the programmer has to spend a ton of time learning 
it or whatever they will just go to yahoo stores or miva merchant or some crap 
like that.

~Dave the disruptor~
good sites - make money getting rid of ie :)
http://explorerdestroyer.com/
http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ 

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From: "Cutter (CF-Talk)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:49 PM
To: CF-Talk <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Open source shopping cart 

Were I not in the process of transitioning out of one position, 
relocating, and into a new position, then I would be offering my 
assistance immediately. However, as I won't have an internet connection 
for a while (much less the packing, moving, unpacking, etc.) I'll have 
to wait until I'm settled. I did want to take a moment to throw in my $.02.

My daddy always told me if you're going to do a job then you should do 
it right the first time. Although the initial planning may take longer 
it is definitely worth while to make this an OO application. It is 
actually easier (by far) to modify and extend a well documented OO app 
over a procedural app. It is easier to design and apply extension 
modules/components. It is easier to track your program flow. Using DAO 
CFC's will allow you to extend the app from a multitude of database 
platforms. A complete separation of the business logic from you control 
and presentation layers will force a developer to concentrate on the 
data to be presented rather than the presentation (which could then be 
output in HTML, XHTML, XML, or even Flash). And, since you are already 
planning on using CFC's, a loosely coupled MVC OO approach will break 
down the project into easily defined subprojects. This type of approach 
would also make it very easy to port into most existing frameworks (Mach 
II, Fusebox, Model-Glue, etc.)

Would an OO approach alienate a majority of users? I don't think so. If 
you offer a superior product, with the features they want, then the 
users will take the time to read documentation to make it work for them. 
These aren't advanced programming concepts, they're good programming 
practices. Those of you looking to turn this into a learning experience 
will gain a much better learning experience by moving forward from an OO 
standpoint.

My two $.02. Hope it helps.

Cutter





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