Thedesktop is only loaded if the machine is logged in at the desktop or via
a terminal services session.
A screensaver cannot run if no-one is logged in.

Here is a very simple test for you.
Logout of your machine and login again. The desktop is not instantly there,
it has to load everything again and thus takes a few seconds to come up.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 November 2005 05:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Hosting

That is ridiculous... the GUI is always loaded, and while it might not be
active 100% of the time while you're not logged in, it gets loaded when
windows boots up and stays loaded taking up memory and some cpu cycles.
Someone on this list even reported that they found out only much later that
their server had a 3d screensaver on, which was taking up 100% cpu when
nobody was logged in, and they never knew, because they never physically
logged in to the machine.  

The point is the GUI is always loaded, and takes up at least some (if
minimal) resources.  Linux doesn't need to have a GUI, the GUI is 100%
optional, and thus it provides a much leaner OS.  Not to mention that they
don't need to come out with 10 patches every month that if you don't install
will likely mean a virus... Linux has autoupdating that doesn't require
rebooting the server like windows does... 

Russ
-----Original Message-----
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Hosting

The GUI is only loaded when you login to windows. If your not logged in, it
isn't loaded. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 November 2005 18:22
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Hosting

The bandwidth consumption doesn't matter.  As has been said many times, any
pc, with any os can pretty much saturate the bandwidth serving static
content.  

Now, when hosting CF sites, I would guess Linux to be better, because linux
overall uses resources better (CPU, RAM, etc).  Linux is just a lighter OS,
that's a lot more stable then windows, with a lot more features.  Windows
has a lot of overhead because of well windows... while linux can be run in
pure text mode (without running X-Windows), which is perfect for servers,
windows requires the GUI system to be loaded at all times, which cause
windows to consume a lot more CPU and RAM, thus cutting down on performance.




-----Original Message-----
From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 1:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Hosting

Have you done comparisons with Linux? 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Hosting
> 
> It was true in the past, but with win2k3 it's not.
> 
> For an example, on cfdeveloper I have hosted 2000 coldfusion sites on 
> a single low spec win2k box with only 512mb ram.
> Granted these are all developer sites and thus not very active, but a 
> decent spec server with lots of ram should be able to do similar.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 23 November 2005 14:46
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Hosting
> 
> I looked at HMS, and their prices are a bit steep for me.  
> I'm sure they are
> well worth it, but I just wish they had a lower end product with CF 
> (like my current host).
> 
> I have heard from people that run hosting services that you can put 
> more shared hosts on a Linux server than you can on a Windows server.
> Has anybody found that to be true?  I would figure that Win2k3 would 
> be able to at least match a Linux server in bandwidth throughput, but 
> I've got no experience in the area.

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