Thanks for the ideas rob couple thoughts on them,

1. Haven't tried seefusion, I will install and see what I can see.

2. queries are all short, we have 3 other cf server running db sites off the
same db server so I don't think that's it

3. Max requests are set to 6, which is about standard for twin cpu, I could
bump it for a test.

4. Long running pages, yes, but with fusebox it just tells you hey
"index.cfm" took X seconds.. But I have it on anyway and no sign of long
running pages except when fusebox reloads. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 7:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cfmx 7.1 on 2.3k locking up once a day

could be lots of things. have you tried running seefusion to get more info
on the application server? have you checked your database to see if there
are long-running queries? i had a client that kept killing their site, and
it turned out that the whole problem was a mis-behaving query that would
take down the sql server and force timeouts on the cf server.

have you tried increasing your max request count in cf admin? try that.
start logging long-running requests if you are not yet, and see what comes
back. you might have a runaway page somewhere.

>We just rolled out mx 7.1 on win 2.3k, Fusebox 4.1. It's a simple 
>application, just content management with 150-200k views a day.
>
>Without fail that mx server hangs in under 24 hours. Here is the 
>evidence we have found.
>
>I started app. Server at the command line: 
>
>When I peep'd in while it was hung it was dumping out the following:
>
>java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available 
>thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active 
>threads in the thread pool.
>
>This is repeated, again and again. 
>
>NOTE: found some articles suggesting ideas on this, turn of debug 
>(done), make sure db is responding (appears to be). Adjust some of the 
>jrun.xml settings (appears to already be done in 7.1)
>
>Perf Mon. 
>went back to before the crash, the only thing odd is the data seems to 
>miss a beat nearing the crash and some data seems off the chart. But 
>when we examine logs we see no burst of traffic. I exported the perf. 
>Mon data and don't see any bursts.
>
>Did a stack dump while it was hung found a ton of these:
>
>"jrpp-108" prio=5 tid=0x04430d60 nid=0x1b08 in Object.wait() 
>[c4af000..c4afdb8]
>       at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
>       - waiting on <0x172c0fa8> (a jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle)
>       at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:107)
>       - locked <0x172c0fa8> (a jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle)
>       at
>jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.jav
>a:423
>)
>       at
>jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.ja
>va:26
>4)
>       at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)
>
>
>Whole log: http://icc.getfused.com/out.txt
>
>
>We have tried moving app. To a 2nd 7.1 and win 2.3k server.. Same 
>issue. We moved the db to another machine, same issue. No other sites 
>using the db seem to be having any issues.
>
>Anyone have any thoughts? Im about to toss in the towel and call adobe 
>and burn 500.00 clams. Any help would be apprecaited, if it saves me 
>the 500.00 then a shopping spree at Amazon could be in your future.
>
>Thanks
>
>gabe



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