> I really don't like Verity - but then again I have used others to compare
it to - and Verity is nothing compared to them
But you just said that you "haven't" used Verity in CF7. Make up your mind
please.
It's a completely new Verity engine. If I recall (and someone can correct
me on the version numbers), the Verity engine used in CF6 was still v2.2("c"
I think) and the version used in CF7 is Verity v5.5 (again, someone can
correct me on the version numbers if I am mistaken). Needless to say, with
the slew of new features added (and there were quite a few) and the ease of
use in CF7 to take advantage of said new features, I don't believe you have
any ground to stand on to compare it against other products (let alone the
fact that you don't know what the features are nor have you bothered to
research them).
It sounds to me that you are just re-stating what you said earlier; that you
specifically went to Verity's competetors (who may have a smaller market
share in the public search market) and they sold you the story that their
competetor's product (Verity) is not good. Sounds like regular marketing
tactics to me. During your product comparisons did you invite Verity to
demonstrate their latest product as well? You also mentioned Lucene... have
you "actually" compared it to Verity in CF7 (obviously no, since you never
used it let-alone know what its features are).
So, as Ray has plainly pointed out, you should not tell people a product is
not worthy just because their competetor says so. You should try actually
"researching" it yourself. Otherwise you're just making yourself out to be
not trustworhty on product research and advice.
BTW: I have a donkey for sale. It costs more than a top-of-the-line steed,
but trust me this is a much better product because I say so. Also, some of
the other farmers in the area who only have donkeys to sell agree with me
that donkeys are much better for travel (with speed) than horses. (yes, I'm
just joking) :)
-Jeff C
On 11/29/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> As you said, I think it is a case of agree to disagree ;-p I really don't
> like Verity - but then again I have used others to compare it to - and
> Verity is nothing compared to them,
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 November 2005 15:54
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Ceiling of Verity collections...
>
> On 11/29/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To add, and you are right, I haven't used verity in CF7 - I avoid it
> like
> > the plague (plus we are tied into using FAST ESP methinks).
> >
> > Does Verity in CF7 still lock users out of a collection/search when it
> > indexes? If it does, that alone indicates a poor search tool.
>
> Afaik no. In the past you had to go lock heavy w/ Verity. You no
> longer need to do that.
>
> > Don't get me wrong, like I said, Verity is great tool for small sites
> and
> > for CF bods to point it to location and say make it searchable, but it
> is
> in
> > no way an enterprise level tool anymore.
> >
> > On the cuff of me calling it crap, what can you say that Verity offers
> me
> > which would change my mind (in comparison to other tools such as Google,
> > FAST etc?) I would wager not that much if any.
>
> To be honest I don't know. I haven't used either of them. As I said,
> they may certainly be better, even loads better, but Verity/CF is free
> and included in the product, so before spending more money, or
> integrating something else like Lucene, one should take a look.
>
> -Ray
>
>
>
>
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