Charlie,
First off all I am not trying to attack your product, actually I have a project 
coming up where it might interest me so I watch myspace very carefully to see 
how it performs.

Now, sorry but I don't by that explaination. 6-7 montha ago myspace was 
supposed to be running bd and then their were probs and as well all now and 
remember your ceo's reaction to that, if you don't search seans 
blog.............

And yes I am away of the size of myspace and all their servers and yada yada 
yada, and yes I have seen errors with their code exposed and it looked like a 
2nd grader was writing it.

So it's been what at least 6 months now? How much time do they need?

But the real reason why I can't rely on what you state below is that I haven't 
seen a macromedia cfm error in months and the ones I see generally are a bit 
nicer and believe me I know what error messags look like, after all I help will 
a lot ;) haha But the errors I see certainly arent macromedia ones.

Like I said, bd might have a place for me but as far as myspace goes I don't 
see any improvements at all and really it couldnt be much worse then it was, 
now if myspace was now "smokin along" and acting like a real app then I would 
be all over bd.

~Dave the disruptor~
good sites - make money getting rid of ie :)
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http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ 

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From: charles arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:19 PM
To: CF-Talk <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How can I use a .Net DLL with CFMX? 

Dave, MySpace is not yet running entirely on BD, so the problems you're seeing 
may just as well be code running on CF5, but failing simply because the volume 
of traffic is absolutely staggering. 

MySpace is either the 3rd or 4th highest trafficed web site of all, above 
google, (in terms of page views), depending on who you talk to (see 
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2005/tc20051115_908925.htm or 
http://news.designtechnica.com/article8875.html for samples). 

That it's working at all with such volumes on CF5 is impressive to many (and I 
don't mean that as a slap, but we all know CFMX was designed to address 
perceived scalability issues with CF5.)

But MySpace knew that the time would come when CF5 would no longer cut it, and 
while they tried CFMX and passed on that, they were considering a move to .NET 
(and pure ASP.NET), when they learned of us. 

After testing last year showed that their code would not only work but work 
better on BD.NET, they bought and started making the move. The site is moving 
to BD by subsites (and across hundreds of servers each time). It's a huge site, 
and they have lots of ongoing responsibilities (always updating the site to 
appeal to their youthful audience) that understandably can get in the way of 
that effort. 

As for the people, I frankly would never get into a discussion of whether I 
thought one company's developers were "decent" or not. "Walk a mile in a man's 
shoes first" seems apt. Most of us know that many factors can influence the 
quality of code we have to support.

/charlie

> sorry charlie but not trying to be an ass but..
> 
> " We have plenty of shops who find the move to BlueDragon to be quite 
> painless "
> like myspace......
> Thats the one I measure BD by and to tell you the truth it seems worse 
> now then when it was on cf5 the error messages are a bit different 
> they are becoming "cultish" kinda like ms's most famous BSOD.
> 
> Is it BD or do they not have enough money yet to pay for decent 
> coders?
> 
> ~Dave the disruptor~



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