Hi, all. I've been just an observer on this very interesting thread, with little to contribute in favor of either idea. However, in reading through the 73 (!) posts I had not yet seen when I came in today, something striking occurred to me.
I saw the two camps as "Keep display code separate from application code (i.e., no HTML in Application.cfm)" and "Mix as necessary". I understand very well the instinct of the latter camp in asking questions like, "Yeah, okay, but *why not* mix them?" because I have remnants of that instinct myself: from about six weeks ago before I took a Java programming course that was heavy on straight OOP theory as well as the Java specifics themselves. After realizing this, I saw that just about every e-mail I read came out like this: If is was from the "mix as necessary" camp, I felt my instincts from six weeks ago kick in. If it was from the "keep display code separate from application code" camp, I felt my new feelings kick in. Why do I bother writing this? Well, I think it is interesting to note that what really changed my mind on this was immersion in a fully OO environment. I would guess that those of us (myself very much included) who have treated ColdFusion as a purely procedural language are more likely to "mix as necessary". But once you've tasted OO, doing such starts to turn the stomach. Because of some silly ups and downs, I may never directly use the Java training that I got, but even if I never do, I suspect that it will make me a much better ColdFusion developer. For those of you who--like me a few weeks ago--have not checked out OO, I strongly recommend you do some reading. There is a stunningly good (I say stunningly good because it is completely free) ground-up introduction to programming that uses Java as its language and focuses on OO available at: http://math.hws.edu/javanotes/ Just the ramblings of an observer. Matthieu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:228284 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
