I tried CFEclipse and just didn't really care for it.  DW is ok...I don't
use the WSYWYG side of it all, so I don't like the overhead. But overall it
is a good product. It does more than just CF, the "do whatever company x
thinks you should use" argument really doesn't apply in this case. I just
wish they would go back to CF Studio.  That was the best app ever for doing
CF.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 27 January 2006 17:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

Just to clarify DW does integrate with source control. VSS, out of the box,
others with some tweaking. I've used Seapine and VSS with DW

That said.

I like both. THere are some lazy programmer things DW offers (tag closing)
that I really have gotten used to.

Both are great in their own ways.

On 1/27/06, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> CFE is definitely targeted at code-centric developers, while DW is 
> essentially an HTML design tool that has had a lot code-centric stuff 
> bolted on.  Neither approach is better or worse, just suited to 
> different people.  The most important difference, however, has nothing 
> to do with that.
>
> CFE is built upon Eclipse, which brings with it more tools that you 
> could hope to learn about this year.  You install Eclipse, and then 
> you can start building the dev environment that you need, not the one 
> that company X thought you needed.  For example, DW doesn't integrate 
> with version control, but Eclipse plugins exist for CVS, SVN, 
> Perforce, VSS, and probably others.  Want XML editing?  There are 
> choices there too: XmlBuddy, oXygen, MyEclipse's XML stuff, and 
> others.
>
> That's the best reason I see to use CFE over DW.  In all honesty, I 
> still think CFE is lacking compared to DW in some areas (like snippet 
> usability), but the external tools support make it WAY better overall.
> I might lose 10-15 minutes a day because of stuff DW would make 
> easier, but I'll save an hour or more with all the other integrated 
> tools I can use in it.
>
> cheers,
> barneyb
>
> On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about 
> > CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use 
> > Dreamweaver at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find 
> > any considerable edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse 
> > developers, no offence please.) Any thoughts on this?
> >
> > May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in 
> > graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on 
> > Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is 
> > a snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But 
> > in CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not 
> > geek enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like 
> > really a chore to me.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> >
> > Phyo Pine
>
> --
> Barney Boisvert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 360.319.6145
> http://www.barneyb.com/
>
> Got Gmail? I have 100 invites.
>
> 



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