Tyler,

Thanks for clearing that up... the best you could given the intrinsic
confusion of Flex. I think what the best thing to do is refer to the
IDE as Flex Builder (which it is), refer to Flex 1.5 Server as Flex
Server, and the Flex Framework (consisting of MXML tags, Actionscript
and compiled swf's) as Flex Framework. The word Flex alone could mean
Flex Builder, Flex Server or Flex Framework, which makes it very
confusing.

So, what are the Flex Enterprise Services (FES)? I guess Flex could be
in reference to Builder, Server, Framework or Services... uh, how
confusing!

Unless I need to build a chat app with server or client side
persisting data, I don't need Flex Enterprise Server. Is that correct?
What I think I am reading is that if I simply want do is build an RIA
with the Flex Framework and providing it data with CF , all I need is
an IDE as robust as Flex Builder or as simple as Notepad, and CF 7.0.1
and the connectivity beta. Is that correct?

Thanks,
Aaron

On 2/1/06, Tyler Fitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think Barney did answer your question, just not as you expected.
>
> Based on the wording of your question below - No.  Buying CF won't mean you
> have Flex.
>
> The new Flex 2 beta has multiple parts.  The IDE based on Eclipse which by
> itself will create your swfs.  No server components needed.  Take that swf
> and push it to your server and you'd be done.  The Flex Framework, which is
> a compiler for the mxml files outside of the IDE.  You could use notepad and
> the Framework and end up with your Flex based RIA (that is - if I understand
> everything I've read so far correctly).  Then there is the Flex Enterprise
> Services (FES) this is the closest thing to the current Flex 1.5 server in
> the sense that it's a server-side component for Flex, but it's not required
> to make a Flex app anymore.  It's only required if you want messaging
> interaction between your server and your app.
>
> So it's a big, kinda confusing Flex 2 soup now.
>
> Nothing is being built in to CF except the ability more directly send
> messages between your Flex app and CF.  CF isn't making the Flex app at all,
> it's just providing data like it always has.  And that's what Barney was
> saying.  You don't need CF to provide data to a Flex app, there are multiple
> other ways to get it done.  But we all love CF, so it's definitely our first
> choice.
>
> HTH,
>
> t
>
> On 2/1/06, Aaron Roberson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 2/1/06, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > You don't need either one, technically.  You can build your apps with
> > > the free command line tools and deploy to any server.  You can use CF
> > > as a backend, but you don't have to, just like you don't have to use
> > > Flex Builder for development.
> >
> > What are you talking about? If you mean to say that I don't have to
> > use CF or Flex to build RIA's in general, then you completely missed
> > the intent of my question. Yes, of coarse you could use AJAX, but
> > that's not what I am asking.
> >
> > What I would like to know is if Flex is now built into ColdFusion so
> > that instead of buying ColdFusion and buying Flex, all we have to do
> > is buy and install ColdFusion 7.0.1 with the connectivity beta? Does
> > this connectivity beta elimate the need to buy Flex Server to deploy
> > Flex applications if CF is installed on the box?
> >
> > -Aaron
> >
> >
>
> 

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