>Actually, Spamcop *DOES* work that way sometimes, and in this particular 
>case, it did.  House of Fusion was blacklisted because of DNS and 
>hostname issues, as Michael has already pointed out.
Yes, a month ago. So why are they having problems now?

>When I looked up the IP address, it said it was the DNS mismatch that 
>caused it to be blacklisted, because spamcop feels that any mail server 
>trying to masquerade as another host with a different IP address is 
>probably a spammer.
Yes, the IP was for mail.houseoffusion.com and the header said 
houseoffusion.com. Intelligent software would be more lenient in such a case or 
at least give it a flag to be checked rather than send it directly to a black 
hole.

>It takes more than "anyone" it takes numerous "someones".  One spam 
>report to spamcop doesn't cause you to get blacklisted.
I can easily 'hack' this process and ban anyone I choose. This is one of the 
reasons I don't use any RBL for my spam checker. I wrote it myself and let me 
tell you that while it takes a few moments to review some of the subjects, my 
success rate is 100% blocked with the only mistakes coming from people who send 
mail without a subject. (red flagged, not deleted, but sometimes deleted by the 
human eye process.)

>I block the spamcop listed email for two main reasons.
>
>#1 - my users don't want to do their own filtering
>#2 - if someone (a person not a list) sends legitimate email and their 
>mail server is listed in spamcop, they'll get a bounced message that 
>tells them why.  That's actually better than the mail being accepted and 
Not exactly true. I found out about the problem first from a concerned list 
member and the spamcop entries I still see to this day are from other peoples 
mail with no message sent to me as the mail server admin.

>I suppose we're *WAY* off topic here =)
Actually, yes we are but there is a little more leaway on the weekend. Not 
much, but enough as long as the talk is still technical.

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