Coo...glad we could get that squared away. :-) Oh yeah, that error was HORRIBLE! I hated it. The latest version is MUCH smoother too man. It is very slick.
On 2/27/06, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No worries. I misinterpreted what you meant. > > I've taught countless novices and from what I've seen, I always get the > impression that professional developers underestimate their own skillsets > and assume that others will pick things up just as quickly. > > My experience with AMFPHP started on version 0.1 and I've used it on many > projects since, but a lot of issues it had (until this latest release) > like > the "Netconnection.Bad.Version" error that plagued everyone who's ever > used > it, adds to the complexity. > > Anyhow, no harm no foul. > > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 2:48 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 > > In no way am I trying to argue. That's why I hate email for discussions, > in > most cases. I'm simply providing another view that is opposite of yours. > > A novice ECMA developer should know something about ECMA. It would be > stupid > for me to think a novice CF developer should know something about an ECMA > language if that is the only language they know. > > No one is comparing anything to CF in terms of ease. I compared Remoting + > CF with AMFPHP and said they are equally simple, except for the method > table > in amfphp. The simple understanding that you MUST know CF or PHP to do > Remoting in either is understood. I don't know Perl so I can't comment on > Remoting + Perl. > > No arguments man. To be blunt, your views seemed limited and pointed to > facts that weren't so ("remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult."). All > I'm saying is if you have a working knowledge of php classes amfphp is not > hard. Obviously you would need a working knowledge of Actionscript as > well. > > If you want to take this off list we can no doubt do so. > > Have a good one... > > On 2/27/06, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If you just want to argue for the sake of arguing, than I'll just > > gracefully > > bow out, but if you think that "novices" have the first clue when it > comes > > to ECMA... you should try teaching them. > > > > Their implementation was flawed for the first 7 releases and though I > > commend them on their achievement, I can't believe that the > functionality > > they're providing is even comparable to CF, which is what I consider > > "easy". > > > > I'm done and out. > > > > !k > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:06 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 > > > > You don't have to use nested associate arrays. You can use numerical or > > associate. CF Stucts are nothing but associate arrays anyway. If you > know > > how to use PHP classes then you know at least what an array is. You can > > return virtually any type in php to Flash. In the latest version you > have > > more types you can return (including xml). > > > > http://www.amfphp.org/docs/datatypes.html > > > > So you know, when I first used AMFPHP I didn't know PHP that well. I was > > the > > definition of novice, in terms of PHP. But PHP classes are similar to > ECMA > > classes so it wasn't hard to catch on. If you aren't a PHP developer > then > > PHP itself is the problem...not AMFPHP. If you don't know CF then CF is > > the > > problem...not Remoting w/ CF. PHP's learning curve is somewhat steep. > > > > The issue with AMFPHP was the documentation was horrible at that point > in > > the game (early versions) so the installation portion was a pain. > > Everything > > dealt with server-wide installation on Apache so it was terribly > > confusing. > > Once I figured out it was just a folder everything else was a piece of > > cake. > > > > On 2/26/06, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It depends what kind of implementation you're trying to accomplish. My > > > point > > > is that for someone without a lot of PHP experience, the nested > > > associative > > > arrays can intimidating. > > > > > > You seem to assume your views based on your own knowledge and skills, > > and > > > that's fine. I judge software based on what an absolute novice would > > > think... > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:48 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 > > > > > > Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step > > > than > > > CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't > > going > > > to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive > conversation > > > anyway. :-) > > > > > > On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 > > > > > > > > Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. > > > > > > > > But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps > to > > do > > > > such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 > or > > 7 > > > > steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. > > > > > > > > You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? > > > > > > > > <!----------------//------ > > > > andy matthews > > > > web developer > > > > ICGLink, Inc. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > 615.370.1530 x737 > > > > --------------//---------> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't > rocket > > > > science. > > > > > > > > They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, > > you > > > > can > > > > have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data > > connector > > > > that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again > in > > > > under > > > > 30 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106&viewName=Exc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hange%20Search%20Details&loc=en_us&authorid=60639501&page=0&scrollPos=0&subc > > > > atid=0&snid=sn106&itemnumber=13&extid=1011923&catid=0 > > > > > > > > I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at > > > communitymx.com > > > > or specifically this one > > > > http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B > > > > > > > > or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. > > > > > > > > ~Dave the disruptor~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233593 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
