It still all boils down to one simple thing for me. Tame something very simple, a web page And make it ridiculously complicated by turning it into an object oriented application.
You can't just open a page in dreamweaver anymore and edit it, you have to go through the code and find the part that generate the content and edit that. Which makes life very hard for the web designers. There is just no reason to do this as far as I can see. A very simple framework does the same job as as complex one like model-glue, except it's more accessible to more developers, easier to understand, faster to use and a better ROI. We recently tried out Model-glue and built a test site using it. It now takes 10 times longer to maintain this site or make changes than it would have done if it was using my framework. The original developer liked it as he comes from an OO background. I then gave the task of applying style and layout to another developer, and she had a mess of a time trying to work it all out. So great if u like these type sof frameworks, but really, don't expect everyone else to. It's just using CFC's to create an OO type environment just for the sake of it. Russ -----Original Message----- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2006 03:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Newbie Model Glue Questions > Model-glue and similar frameworks is great if you want to obfuscate > your code and keep your client bound to you for any ongoing work Not so much. There are too many people using Fusebox, Model Glue or Mach-II for that to be any reason to keep the programmer you have currently if they are doing a bad job for you. On the other hand there's the onTap framework, which is a bit different and as of yet doesn't have a large developer base. If you only ever look at the code then sure it's liable to take a while to decypher, however nearly every jot and divet of the framework is heavily documented with both component references and tutorials, so if there is ever any question about the way the framework handle's a particular piece of code, you can find out how it works pretty quickly. This is the way programming is supposed to work to begin with is it not? ColdFusion is an easy language to implement, but it's always helped that the documentation for the language has been thorough. If the documentation doesn't suffice, you can always email me and ask and I can update the docs. :) I'm sure the same goes for all the other frameworks. > as only developers who already understand the framework and OO will be > able to understand it, which will cut most average web developers. That's also changing. The increase in frameworks usage in the community at large means that not learning them is likely to reduce your job options, rather than the other way around. Some employers who use Fusebox have turned down potential employees without an understanding of Fusebox for a while now, so with the addition of several more frameworks in popular and more frequent use, this situation will only become more common. Learn to work with them now and be prepared, because employers will expect them. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237226 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
