On 4/28/06, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ah, that explains my confusion with that setting sometimes.
> >
> > I prefer that if it starts with a slash, it's absolute. Site
> > root relative?
> >
> > Why not just call a URL a URL? I mean, I'm all for enriching
> > the language and all, but sheesh.  Site root relative is
> > still absolute. I don't see anything relative about it.  I'll
> > end with "site root relative" is just plain silly, and
> > calling a URL an absolute path is almost as silly. Maybe more so.
> > ;-)
>
> First, stating a preference is not the same as making an argument. You
> haven't given any reason why your beliefs about syntax should be accepted
> by
> everyone else.


I didn't know it was a debate. I was just stating a preference.  And making
a
comment on the relativeness of the site root. I mean, sure it's relative
from some
point, but then again, so is "/".

I didn't mean you were silly, if it came across that way.

Second, you can quickly find out the difference between a site-root-relative
> path and an absolute path by copying an HTML page with the former from one
> server to another, and seeing how things work.


An absolute file system path? Or absolute path as in the full URL, including
protocol?  Damn it, now I'm confused.  I get the point though, I think, if
you
mean a site where you have to replace /something with /somethingelse all
over the place.  That's why I too like the "set the paths in the
application.cfc"
type deal, since you gotta have 'em usually anyways.  Why not use variables
and change them instead. :-)

Third, relative, site-root-relative, and absolute paths are all acceptable
> as URLs, within the context of an HTML page. So just "call[ing] a URL a
> URL"
> doesn't help too much, since there is obviously an important distinction
> to
> be made in how URLs are resolved by the browser.


 Distinction is important, thus my comment on "absolute paths" being
mostly complete URLs.  Site root relative, again, I guess if you mean that
/ always resolves to / or /thesite resolves to /thesite... do you see what I
mean? Isn't that a sorta pointless distinction?  Either it's absolute or
it's
relative, but calling it "site root relative"... I'm probably just
overlooking
something obvious conceptually. It wouldn't be the first time.

Ahhh I grant you that it would be much easier if a site was set up to
resolve to /somedir instead of just /, it would be trivial to have many
of said sites on the same server.

Is that the point of site relative paths?  I can dig that.  I was just being
thick headed.  But I still, in the context of the browser, site root
relative
and absolute are the same thing. ... or ..\, maybe ;-) If'n ya dig the
relative part.  I could probably come up with an argument that demon-
strated this better than casual typing, just, not right now. (^;

You are free to use whatever terminology you wish, if I see
http://some.kindo.url:5070/blah?woot I'll know what to do with it.

Dunno if you called me on the phone and said, "what's the absoltue
path for the flower.gif file" I'd spit out "http://blah blah" tho...

:DeN


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