Hi, Nathan... I've checked out the MS Visual Web Developer 2005, express edition, and it does have limitations, but probably none I'd miss anytime soon, especially since I'm still working under the limitations of CF 4.5.2.
The express edition is free, I already have servers running Windows 2000 Server, all my OS's are Win XP Pro... So, it looks to me like everything would be free...I guess to process the asp code, I just need to install the .NET framework, which is free also, I believe. So, it seems like I can start working in the latest asp world for nothing, except the cost of learning asp coding (which I really don't want to do), but I also don't want to spend $1300 to upgrade CF 4.5.2 to the CF 7...$600... probably, but $1300...I doubt it. Adobe may just lose a CF Developer over this one...and besides, my clients for whom I develop office web applications can setup up servers to run my apps without having to buy CF...they have to have the Server OS, e.g. Windows Server 2003, but they have to have that even with CF... Can't believe they don't offer *any* upgrade discount from 4.5.2. I've paid MM (now Adobe) $1300 once, and I think I deserve a discount for the latest version. This probably shows my ignorance of the CF 7 platform, but I don't see any *basic* difference in what 4.5.2 and what CF 7 does that I want...a means to add, update, delete, and display data from a database. It seems that all the versions of CF do that, just in better ways. I want something groundbreaking before shelling out upgrade money. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer On 4/29/06, Denny Valliant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmmm... is everything really free in aspland? I thought that idea > ran counter to microsoft's MO. ;-) You're not talking about using > mono or something right? Well, there's an express version of the IDE that's free, and there are ways to score the standard edition for free (*cough* www.learn2asp.net, sign up, click 3 download buttons *cough* don't have to actually download them *cough*). There are also other IDEs like the OSS SharpDevelop (Kinda like using Eclipse instead of Sun Java Studio). All the compiling and everything is free, you can do it via cmd if you like, just download the SDK. All the help docs come with the free SDK. Deploying is free, though your IDE may limit the types of deployment it supports, but you can always manually hack it. Running your software is also free, be it on client PCs or on web servers through IIS. What you don't get for free is the advanced IDE features, mostly like class diagramming and advanced deployment options, plus team system integration (team system is like scm plus loads of collaboration and project management), and you don't get the server OS software for free (but you can find Win 2003 web edition for around $300), and you can run it through Win2000 if you like). Then, of course, your development OS (should be XP Pro) isn't free. There's a chance you're using these OSes already, bringing the cost down to pretty much nothing. I'm not beign negative, and i'm not saying it's better or worse than any other platforms. I'm just telling it like it is. -nathan strutz http://www.dopefly.com/ (yes, still on .cfm, and will be for a long time) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239179 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
