Rick, I have to say I'm a little confuzzled about all this. I mean, you're in CF4.5 now and ... you're claiming that $1300 is a lot to cough up for the CFMX server and that you've made plenty of money with CF4.5, etc. What happened?
The development difference between CF 4 and CFMX6/7 is night and day IMHO. It's well worth the $1300 upgrade. In my opinion, even CF5 was a huge leap from 4 in terms of additional things that you can do. With 5, came the introduction of query of queries and udfs along with stability improvements. With CFMX and beyond, we're talking about flash remoting, pdf generation, the new cfforms and access to additional java libraries that we've never had before without having to jump through hoops to get them. CFCs? A huge part of my development these days and I can't imagine having to go back to CF4/5 anymore. We still have a CF5 box here at work, I pretend it doesn't exist. Tho, sometimes for chuckles, I'll go surf some old projects of mine and groan about the old days. The company I currently work for has already moved on and we've already mentioned to the clients that we're recommending code upgrades if they want to move forward with us. We're 100% more than willing to work with them, it's up to them if they want to make the leap or not. Otherwise, we'll still continue to host/support the CF5 box until they're done clinging. If all you care about is the development process and you're not involved in hosting, why is this even a discussion? The trial edition of CFMX Server (Enterprise) is available for download and has a 2 IP restriction. That's more than enough to do development on a local box. That's free. The only thing that isn't free is the IDE that you're planning on using and as has been pointed out, there's plenty of them out there (including free ones). Do you actually do hosting? Is this the biggest concern you have? There's plenty of cheap hosting out there. Yeah, it's nice running your own box but man, don't tell me that it's not a bugger of a chore sometimes. I guess I just find it weird that it's so hard to justify an upgrade from CF4 to CFMX7, because in my opinion... there's no comparison and the new technology in CFMX is justified and easily sell-able to any client out there and will pay for itself if you knuckle down and get yourself familiar with the new stuff. You can even start learning now with the trial edition of CFMX and then decide for yourself if it's worth it. Anyway, you're so torn on this subject, yet there's a lot of answers out there if you look for them. Just offering a different, probably unwelcomed response. ~Todd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239693 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

