On 5/15/06, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Dave,
>
> I think you're 100% on the money with "if you build a crap model or
> view all three will suck" - a lot of people spend a lot of time
> getting hung up on what framework to use and don't see that it's
> really not all that important in the overall picture.


Seconded.  Er. Thirded?

All coding is "frameworked" so to speak.  That doesn't
guarantee good code. Frameworks don't guarantee good code.

Maybe it helps by limiting the options, but I feel like people think
that frameworks have some inherent nature, outside of their already
inherent nature, of organization, which they don't.

Bad code is bad code is bad code.  As a bad-ass coder, I gots
tons of it.  I can make a mess of anything.  Especially if it's
complex.  Bad ass-coder, is more like it, me thinks. ;-)

No doubt the more you know, the more you know, though.
Check it all out, it's all good. Even the bad is good. Umm...

The concepts, are what I'm finding invaluable. Specifically,
seperation of this from that, and how this or that does it.

Ok, nuff nonsense from me, apollo'gee.

:Den-e


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