Helmet (and seat belt) laws attempt to protect people from themselves, and I tend to agree that that could be construed as invasive. Browser functionality that restricts access to my hard drive is an attempt to protect me from others, and like all similar laws, I applaud that.
-----Original Message----- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any reason why a file field can be submitted back to the page it's on? I see your point, BUT, wouldn't car accidents be *less* dangerous and injurious if people in cars did wear helmets? Rick -----Original Message----- From: Mike Klostermeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any reason why a file field can be submitted back to the page it's on? The reason you don't need helmets on car drivers is that the law of diminishing returns applies when you are talking about a 2nd or 3rd layer or protection (car + air bags + helmet) vs. the first layer of protection (helmet alone), as is the case of a motorcycle. It should also be noted that a seriously injured non-helmet wearing motorcyclist would not be the only "victim" in such an accident. Say I accidentally pull out in front of a motorcycle and hit him. The guy wearing a helmet has a concussion, broken arm, and broken leg. The guy not wearing a helmet dies. When it's all said and done, I and my insurance company (for those that actually have insurance) get sued for 50,000 in the first case, 1 million in the latter, and I rightfully lose both, I'm sure. It may sound callous, but such laws as the helmet and seat belt laws protect much more than the person under the belt or helmet (other motorists, hospitals and the state if un/under insured, insurance companies, etc.) This should be OT, so if you want, we can continue this discussion over there. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Any reason why a file field can be submitted back to the page it's on? But, even very minor accidents, when they involve uncovered motorcyclists lead overwhelmingly often to critical injury or death, whereas minor accidents involving non-motorcyclists, even uncovered ones, rarely lead to anything but a ruined day and a trip to the body shop. Sorry, the argument was too tempting and I had to jump at it. --Ferg Rick Faircloth wrote: > But, I would dare say without actually studying the data, > that there are so many more non-motorcycle drivers, that > there would surely be more head injuries for those drivers > than for motorcyle drivers...and surey more uninsured > non-motorcycle driving motorists, leading to more cost > to the state for head injuries for non-motorcycle drivers. > > If the data proves me wrong, so be it. But I doubt *any* > data would show that to be the case, since the ratio > of motorcycle drivers to all others vehicles would be > miniscule... > > But that still doesn't answer the question as to why lawmakers > wouldn't require helmets for all motorists if there only concern > was to save lives and money...because if we all strapped them > on all the time, we certainly would save both. > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:13 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Any reason why a file field can be submitted back to the > page it's on? > > > >> Once I see all motorists, whether driving a car, truck, or >> motorcycle forced to wear helmets to protect the state from >> the costs of uninsured motorists' injuries, then I'll believe >> lawmakers created a helmet law which is fair, worthy of >> respect, and doesn't just single out a particular group to >> which to apply the law because the lawmakers aren't >> inconvenienced by the law they created. >> > > A quick perusal of comparative head injury rates between motorcyclists and > automobile drivers should help you understand why it's a bigger issue with > motorcyclists. If you go over the handlebars, and you're not wearing a > helmet, chances are very good that someone's going to be mopping your brains > off the road. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:241539 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
