Just so you all know, we use a library for our FTP commands which is  
rather nice, but the passive is switched off I think (or on  
permanently, cant remember).

One thing I might have to add is the FTP command list so that you can  
see why it isnt connecting, it has worked fine for me for the servers  
that I have used but it sometimes doesnt work with some servers (I am  
told) and then I dont really know how to debug since I (obviously)  
dont have access to that FTP server!!!


Will see what I can do

Regards

Mark Drew


On 6 Jun 2006, at 04:06, Eric Roberts wrote:

> I would say the difference in command availability is a ftp server  
> configuration issue.  Where commands are not available, that is  
> prolly because the sysadmin shut those commands off.  FTP is a  
> protocol set by W3C.  Much like any other transfer protocol, you  
> can "transmit" it over a secure channel.  Is there any difference  
> in the html for a page that uses http vs. https?  It's all the same  
> transfer protocol, with an added layer of security from a security  
> protocol or method  You put together sftp and ftps...remove the  
> security...you still have good ole plain text insecure ftp.
>
> I will look into tortoise once I figure out what the hell Wide Open  
> West is doing to my internet connection grrrrrrrr
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 05 June 2006 21:26
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5
>
> On 6/5/06, Eric Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Its still ftp over something.  Just because you send ftp over ssl,
>> ssh, tls, or anything else for that matter, it doesn't make the ftp
>> part of it any
>
>
> I'd challenge that, if only because I was checking out the FTP bugs  
> in the eclipse bugzilla, and they explain why it's been lacking.   
> Maybe you are right tho, and FTP is FTP is FTP, no big deal,  
> passive or no.
>
> But I don't think so.  Do you have some back-up for your assumption?
> Heh. Coming from me, that's funny, I know. [=
>
> Ever wonder why some commands are available on some hosts and not  
> others? I think that is part of it, maybe, but my memory is hazy  
> from abuse. :-)
>
> Do they make subversion for windows?  I would be willing to try it  
> out for
>> size.
>
>
> Yes, there is a GREAT utility called tortoiseSVN.  It's AWESOME!
>
> Some places get overly anal...possibly rightfully so hehehe...and  
> don't
>> allow vpn for consultants.
>
>
> Like Rife, they own all that data in your head too. :-)  I get it,  
> that's ok.
> Downtown, workin for the FBI... so many passports... don't even  
> know my own name...
>
> to try and install products they are not familiar with.  As far as  
> backup,
>> most places I have been have at least daily back-ups...some have had
>> hourly backups(incremental of course).
>
>
> It's not just great if you can get it, it's great, period.  It's  
> easy to
> get.  CVS
> has been around for aeons.  Blows any type of "backup" system clean  
> out
> the water.  Hands down, no questions asked.  I can flip through all  
> changes
> made to any section of code from any point in time, instantly - and  
> what's
> better, I can compare it against any other code from any other  
> point in
> time,
> even right now, and see EXACTLY what's different, all color coded and
> highlighted and even with a little AI thrown in.  Or over a range  
> of time,
> even!
> (do be sure to back up your repository however!!! :)
>
> It's simply dabomb, no question, everyone should use/be familiar  
> with [VC].
>
> But those are just opinions, no real facts to back 'em up or whatnot.
> Zing! (just kidding, sorry I'm such a punk today! Blame Russ ;)
>
> ÆòÈ
> :denner
>
>
>
>
> 

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