stfu poser boy

~Dave the disruptor~ 

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From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 1:49 PM
To: CF-Talk <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... 

Oh god don't, you will start "you know who" off again.

Snake 

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 June 2006 22:41
To: CF-Talk
Subject: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues...

"You must be a Mac person"

Hmmm.. Oddly enough there is not a title available for "OpenBSD for
Dummies".
Interesting.

Regards,

Phillip B. Holmes
http://phillipholmes.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 3:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues...

On 6/9/06, dave  wrote:
>
> i just starting getting that error as well
>
> ~Dave the disruptor~

Dave, if you really want to disrupt things, you'll get in the mix, like in
SLCpunk. ;-)

Eric, I'm sorry to hear of your frustrations with Eclipse.
I'm really good at problem solving, so I forget that it's not everyone's
forte. I must not have beamed enough good vibes towards your install. :-(

Three strikes, Eclipse is out, man! And I'm sure it's eclipse's fault, as
10000s of people can definitely be wrong, me being one of them. (eg I got it
going somehow, first try (depending on what you call a "try"). You must be
a Mac person.
*giggles*. Eclipse doesn't claim to be dummy proof!

If you ask me, it doesn't speak well for you, not the other way around.
It's not rocket science.
Everything has a learning curve, but you'll find that it IS a curve, and MAN
the view from this semi-plateau is AMAZING!

.......For what I do. If you do the stuff DW is good at, you'll be happier
with DW, no doubt. I still like it for orphan link checking and stuff like
that. Been a while since I've used it, but it's nice to know it's there.
King of the wysiwyg, if'n ya ask me...
**
Eclipse 3.2 is at the RC7 stage, so it's not the stable download that is the
default link from the homepage.

You ned to click on "other versions" link (or some wording like that) to get
the latest release candidate.

It is a down side to things that are actively developed, (if you want to
call it a down side) and collaborative...
Everyone sorta has to gear up right before release if we want to hit the
ground running when the release IS official. Thus, the eclipse you want is
not the current version, but the faster, better, version, soon to be the
stable, official release.

It will say "Eclipse 3.2" somewhere, that's how you'll know you got the
right one. RC7 is latest, and I'm about to download it and set it up, so
I'll document it for you, and anyone else who's interested.

FWIW, I've been using 3.2 since milestone 4, and haven't had any troubles
with it (besides it's faster than 3.1, dang it ;)

Eclipse, and communal development in general, is such a foreign idea, it
takes a while to grasp, for some people.

The absolute power that is rendered, and benefits to all, are amazing, and I
hope you can get up to speed sometime, when projects aren't pressing on you,
perhaps.

It's a constant thing tho, so you'd need to start putting aside a chunk of
time each day or week, to keep up to speed on what new and cool stuff is
available. (at least click that "search for updates" link now and again ;)
IF you want to get active in what's going on, or whatever.

But take your time! you should enjoy what you're doing, and if you're not
enjoying futzing with Eclipse, or tools besides ones you are familiar with,
don't do it.

Lots of work from thousands of regular joes have gone into eclipse (besides
the IBM heads), so writing it off as "fix this crap", when it is user error
to some extent, is just plain not nice.
(and there are PLENTY of horrible bugs in DW, mister "I'll use something
that ""works""" ;)

Sorry so defensive, I hope I at least put some useful info in here, for
those who are really willing to give something different a shot.

Guess a simple link to the download page may have sufficed, but you can lead
a horse to eclipse...
Hehehe. Ok, I'm silly, sorry so bitchy, Eric.

We're all good now. Peace guys! (till a "how to", I guess ;) :Denny

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> From: "Eric Roberts" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 12:42 AM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues...
>
> Problem 1: I have 3.1 Where do I get 3.2...I just dl'd this from the 
> eclipse.org site.
>
> Problem 2: Now I am getting an error where the pages won't 
> display...Unable to create this part due to an internal error. Reason 
> for the failure:
> org.eclipse.jface.text.Document
>
> This does not speak well for eclipse. Looks like I am going to have 
> wait a few weeks to mess with eclipse. It's back to DW so I can my 
> project
done.
> Maybe a new version will come out that will fix this crap. Not very 
> impressed with my 3rd attempt to use eclipse.
>
> Eric
>



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