True, but in this case we already own VSS so cost is less of a factor.
 I have to sell added value and less-than-absurd conversion costs.  To
that end, any conversion resources anyone could offer would be great.
Also, any selling points on the value added side would be helpful.

On 6/13/06, Michael Traher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found the greatest aid to selling CVS/SVN was the price :-)
>
> On 6/13/06, Rob Wilkerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I think it does and it means that SVN offers a capability that VSS is
> > fundamentally lacking.  That will make selling this change much
> > easier.  Thanks for your help.
> >
> > On 6/13/06, Michael Traher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > :-) yes, each of these source systems has a language all its own!
> > > Fortunately CVS and SVN have the same root so thats one mercy.
> > >
> > > The project is all stored in the repository (all versions since you
> > first
> > > created it there or committed your existing source files for the first
> > > time).
> > >
> > > In eclipse (and other CVS/SVN client tools) youcan checkout the entire
> > > project, and the most common files you want are the latest ones these
> > are
> > > the default files you will get if you don't ask for anything else.
> > >
> > > eclipse lets you 'replace' your working copy of a project with another
> > > version from the repository. This other version it identified by a tag
> > (yes
> > > a label) that you have previously told CVS/SVN to apply to a particular
> > set
> > > of files.
> > >
> > > It could be that this tag was applied a week ago and that since then
> > further
> > > changes have taken place to the source code but these changes are not
> > > ready/tested yet so you don't want those. Thats what the tags are for to
> > pin
> > > down a particular consistent set of files from the repository.
> > >
> > > I have always applied tags to all files (so I click on the top folder in
> > the
> > > project) but in response to your request I tried just 3 files. Then I
> > asked
> > > eclipse to replace my current version of the project with the version
> > > represented by the tag. All I got was
> > > /rootfolder
> > >    /subfolder
> > >        /subsubfolder
> > >        file1.cfm
> > >        file2.cfm
> > >        file3.cfm
> > >
> > > So I could zip/tar this up and then expand on the production server
> > > overwriting just the 3 files as required.
> > >
> > > After this is done I can ask eclipse to 'replace' my project with the
> > latest
> > > version and I will get all the project back again with latest changes.
> > >
> > > Does that make it clearer?
> > >
> > > On 6/13/06, Rob Wilkerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Michael, it sounds like you tried exactly what I'm looking to do, but
> > > > I need to clarify since you used terminology that I'm not familiar
> > > > with (read: non-VSS terms).  I assume "tagging" is "labeling", but
> > > > what do you mean you "replaced the project"?  I need to "tag" a few
> > > > selected files and then extract - using the tag value - those files to
> > > > a build directory (not my standard working directory) where they will
> > > > be consolidated into a tarball.  Once extracted, the build directory
> > > > would contain only the files with the given tag.  Does "replacing the
> > > > project" mean anything like that?  :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > On 6/13/06, Michael Traher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I just experimented with tagging just a handful of files (i tried
> > three)
> > > > and
> > > > > then I replaced the project with the 'tag' and all I had was the
> > > > necessary
> > > > > folder tree and the files I had tagged!
> > > > >
> > > > > This would then make a nice neat distribution.
> > > > >
> > > > > (I suspect this is what the 'patch' wizard in eclipse may do for you
> > > > anyway
> > > > > but I've never tried it......)
> > > > >
> > > > > At the risk of crazy people joining the thread eclipse does have
> > very
> > > > nice
> > > > > source control tools CVS built in and SVN as a plugin.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/13/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Monday 12 June 2006 18:25, Rob Wilkerson wrote:
> > > > > > > customers.  Ideally, I'd like to extract only the modified files
> > > > from
> > > > > > > the source control repository so I can then just roll them up in
> > a
> > > > > > > tarball without any additional weeding of what's in and what's
> > out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Should be easy enough, you ask SVN for all the changes between the
> > > > last
> > > > > > release revision and the current (with fixes).
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Tom Chiverton
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