I remember drumbeat. Never really used it (which is a shame, I think it cost some $$), but I recall what the box looked like. Ultradev I used a bit...
It seems like they all have stuff they excel at, and not-so-excel at... thru the ages... As for Watts's comment: The idea of doing things manually when you can do them automatically is antithetical to what it means to be a programmer. I was thinking about that... I think I'd qualify it, with "some things manually". If the idea was really about automation, everyone would jump on tech that makes things easier. I really haven't seen that, in all my years of watching. Or you've got the "Visual" and "textual" troupes. How things are automatically done seems to contribute to some extent to the acceptance of any given automaton. Or how it's thought of, even. Or represented, maybe- or that whole vhs and betamax interestingness. But I'd have to go with "some" as a qualifier. We all have attachments to certain aspects of how we do what we do, and thus it shines through. And I think that that is part of what it is to be a programmer. Predilections and all. (Here I could insert the wishy-washy comments like: if all coders would take that into account, and not be so harsh when another coder professes a like or dislike for X or Y, the world would be a better place, or some crap like that, but I won't, because I juust did). Bleh, definitions... I'm not good at, Dave W will back me up (re: relative/absolute;). Hacker was a fun one, programmer could be the same... is the same- you've all got different ideas of what it meas to be one, some more similar than others, I'm sure, but grouping together like a survey, just the same. At either rate, I thought it was funny that it's not so cut and dry, even though we like to say it is. And in our heads, think it is. Personally, that is. As a "good" programmer though, I think I'm going to check out this Unity beta, I'm liking the sound of organization coming from the ideas behind the driving... ideas? Hrm. well, whatever. Since it's the weekend, I'll go ahead and let this one escape, tacking on a question: Does anyone here use any UML tools to do their development? I haven't really tried any out- I know the general idea of UML, and I know that they have generators now for a few languages, but I'd be interested in hearing whether anyone 'round here has been using it, specifically, generating code with it, and generally, CF code. That could be a fun project, a UML to CF generator... well, not very topical, but it's father's day, so what the hey, Happy Father's Day, all you Fathers!!! :DEN On 6/17/06, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ultradev > its really not hard, if you have problems im sure lynda.com or total > training have dw vids that would have u going in no time. > > ~Dave - formerly known as "the disruptor"~ > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:44 PM > To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: SOT: Would Dreamweaver help the transition from CF 4.5 to CF > 7? > > I've tried every version of DW that's come out since it > was....ummm....well > now > I can't even think of the > name of DW before it was DW...what was the name of that > product? Drumbeat or something like that? > > I just haven't been able to get into DW yet. I even trialed DW8...but I > shall try again! > > Rick > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:244082 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
