The experimentation was able to do within the 30-day trial period of DW didn't go too well as far as DW being accurate in its design view when compared to what the browser was showing at times.
Also, one of the things I really disliked, which someone told me a way to overcome was some of the components, when databound, would put the entire variable in the design view, making the grid much larger than it needed to be. Such as for a date, DW would have #DateFormat(GetEvent.Date, "mmm d, yyyy")# in the field when the date would be much shorter. Because of that it distorted the design as I worked in DW. Someone showed me a setting where DW would do something like collapse the variable to a short form that wouldn't take up so much space. My current WYSIWYG, NetObjects Fusion, which I've been using since I started building websites, has always made it difficult to work directly in the code, although I could add HTML to elements, such as CF, and I developed a good working method with the tool. However, I've grown a little tired of working with the same tool, and also thought that since I was going to CFMX7 and DW8 had a lot of components and code assist, that would help me make the transition to the new functions and elements, it was probably time for a change...even if DW8 costs $400...steep for a design tool these days. Many people pooh pooh NetObjects because it doesn't allow people to edit the code it creates, but I learned to comment out some of its code when I wanted to do something different to a particular element. I didn't really want to bother with writing basic HTML anyway. I wanted to spend my time on the CF code. Now I do SEO / SEM work for several clients and I've become much more conscious of how much code NetObjects generates to accomplish its layouts. They render well, but the pages are code heavy. I'm going to give DW another shot and see how it goes. I'll give CFEclipse another look, too. Although I've only read about it...never actually installed it. Thanks for the tips on using DW...XHTML 1 Strict...I'll remember that. Rick -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: re: SOT: Would Dreamweaver help the transition from CF 4.5 to CF 7? Do you think dreamweaver is inaccurate or your old editor is just badly outta date? Right now I am only making sites in xhtml 1 strict and dreamweaver is extremely accurate. As a visual designer you wont like cfe, I would use cfe for the cf code and dw for the design, although myeclipse plugin has a design view for pcs with eclipse ~Dave - formerly known as "the disruptor"~ ---------------------------------------- From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:15 AM To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> Subject: SOT: Would Dreamweaver help the transition from CF 4.5 to CF 7? Hi, all. Ever since I started building websites (without any background), I've relied on an WYSIWYG tool for design and at first used CF components to build dynamic sites. After awhile, I realized some of the limitations of the components and have eventually gotten to the point where I prefer to write all my code by hand for better control and understanding of how things are working behind the scenes. I still want a quality WYSIWYG program to use for design, but I'm back where I started with CF some 6 or 7 years ago. I feel like with all the changes to CF from 4.5 to 7, I might be better off using some components to aid in the CF coding at first, then as I learn what they're doing, use more manual coding. Now to my question.would Dreamweaver (which I've tried several times, including the latest and just couldn't move from my long-time WYSIWYG tool.I found Dreamweaver to be inaccurate in many renderings between design interface and browser) help me to be productive faster with CF 7 while I'm learning it? I know there's a lot of talk about CFEclipse, but I don't think that's a good tool for me as a visual developer. Thoughts? Rick PS - I hate these "turning point" stages in business.guess that's why I've hung on to CF 4.5 so long.it's like my old comfortable recliner. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:244205 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

