I started with fp too *choke gag puke* Im not as strong with cfm either but like u most of the sites are basic crud sites, takes long to make the layout then the code. But the thing is thats what people see, thats what ppl buy.
We are kinda a like then and really I can be perfectly happy with dw. There are things I like in cfe and a few others and I do want to get comfy with cfe because it "is" the editor of the future and its pretty clear that Adobe will be behind it quite a bit. Dw though does do a very good job, the main complaint is that ppl say its a system hog cause its not as lightweight as hs but hell almost every new version of every products gets heavier and heavier with each release and it runs fast to me. It's pretty easy to spot a fp site tho huh! lol... ~Dave - formerly known as "the disruptor"~ ---------------------------------------- From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 11:55 PM To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Can't open CF7 Administrator You're right...design needs to be as good as the code or it doesn't get past first base with most clients...and there's no reason it should. I'm strong on design, less strong of CF coding, but I get done what I need to. I mostly work on sites that require adding, updating, and deleting content...text, photos, etc. Some of the more complex work has been design business "webware" to run businesses processes where they wanted a custom application to take the place of many pieces of traditional software that were getting a little unwieldy. So a tool has got to function with CF without hindering my design work. I can always smell a FrontPage site in about 2 seconds after the browser opens. It's not that it was such a terrible tool...but it was free and many people who used it generally had no talent for any part of web design and development...and it gave FrontPage a very bad name. I tried it when I first started and that's when you had to use it like a word processor...yuck... Rick -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Can't open CF7 Administrator lol, yeah right one is a 1 or 2 page site. The other is about a week long project.... Filthy.. yes, rich.. lol 3 clients a yr?, hell gotta do that a week. I can live a good lifestyle cause I dont sit around wasting my time on making projects that i'll spend a year on and never finish. Im like u Rick, mostly a one man band, call in help when i need it but the reality is that if you want people to use u and you dont have awhole team to work with then you gotta have a a few skills and the one most ppl need to improve on is design because if the site looks like it was made in frontpage (no matter how good the cfm code is) you wont get much business. So why waste time making something you cant use cause u dont have any clients. ~Dave - formerly known as "the disruptor"~ ---------------------------------------- From: "Rick Faircloth" Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Can't open CF7 Administrator I guess that's the genius of it...he only has two take care of two clients and he's "agonizingly busy" and probably getting filthy rich while the rest of us CF coders have to take at least 3 clients every two years to maintain a level of lifestyle such as Dave enjoys... Right Dave? ;o) Rick -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Can't open CF7 Administrator And this comes from the resident genius, so how did u come up with time to come up with that since your 2 clients in the last 2 years must keep ya agonizingly busy......... ~Dave - formerly known as "the disruptor"~ ---------------------------------------- From: Will Tomlinson Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 6:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Can't open CF7 Administrator > hell, I dunno dave "the worm" lyons And there's the quote of the week! :) Will ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:244207 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

