so you'd want to do this then? (this is how they have it set up on the
webmaster.info.aol.com)

<META HTTP-EQUIV="Expires" CONTENT="Mon, 06 Jan 1990 00:00:01 GMT"> 
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Pragma" CONTENT="no-cache">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="cache-control" VALUE="no-cache, no-store,
must-revalidate">

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Queen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: AOL mayheim


OK, I have watched this thread for the past two days and am now going to
magically solve the AOL caching issues for everybody.

<Wave of Magic Wand>
<Puff of Smoke>
http://webmaster.info.aol.com/index.cfm?article=12
</Smoke>
</Magic>

Look, if you read the information provided by AOL in their ColdFusion based
webmaster information page they tell you how to cause their servers to not
cache.

P.S. - Has anybody read that book about the Spanish guy named Manuel, it
does help. ;)

Kevin Queen                    ____
Software Developer            ||""||
SyntheticLogic                ||__||
Atlanta, Ga                   [ -=.]
                              =======:0~

"Ah, I see!", said the blind man to the deaf mute.  -Unknown


-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: AOL mayheim


Boy, that's a tough one.  I'd ask the folks at AOL, to be honest.  Good luck
getting an answer anytime relatively soon, though.  If you are able to get
the stats from them regarding frequency of caching, etc., please do share
the numbers with this list.  I don't target AOL users, nor do I generally
even stop to think about what my site is going to look like to an AOL user,
to be honest.  However, AOL users do represent a large audience, and I
probably should be more concerned about how my clients' sites look to them.
If you discover any tips, tricks, or standard procedures for making a
dynamic site more "AOL friendly", I'd be interested in knowing about it, as
would many other folks on this list I'm sure.  You are correct in your
statement that AOL's problems are not ColdFusion specific, in regards to
their probable inability to cache dynamic sites.  These problems would exist
for any dynamic site technology, not just CF.  Until you get answers from
the folks at AOL, my best advice (if this is a real concern of yours) is to
post a little disclaimer for AOL users stating the possibility of outdated
material and the like, and let them know you're working on it.  Of course,
the best thing for you to do is to download and install a free AOL trial
membership, and view your site the way other AOL user would.

~Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: John Allred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: AOL mayheim


Thanks for this insight, Simon. According to this logic, Cold Fusion would
not be singled out by AOL. It would not be friendly to any server
technology that presents dynamic pages based on database content, including
ASP, PHP, and Domino.

Can you or anyone else shed some light on just how far behind AOL's caching
is? For instance, if I have info on a site that changes daily, how long
will AOL users go between snapshots? This would help me explain to AOL
users what they're not seeing.

--John






                    Simon Horwith

                    <shorwith@fig        To:     CF-Talk
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                    leaf.com>            cc:

                                         Subject:     RE: AOL mayheim

                    10/10/2000

                    01:51 PM

                    Please

                    respond to

                    cf-talk








I haven't been following this entire thread, but you've got to remember
that
for all intents and purposes, AOL is a cached intranet.  AOL (or anyone
else) cannot cache pages that are dynamically changing based on database
content... or at the very least, they cannot keep very current copies of
dynamic sites on their network.    From AOL's standpoint, the statement
that
they are not "ColdFusion" friendly makes sense.

~Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: Warrick, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: AOL mayheim


Hey Brian,

For those of us (such as myself) who apparently need new glasses, could you
help us out with a link to that info you're talking about?

---mark


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian bouldernet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:58 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: AOL mayheim
>
>
> You cannot email AOL using Cold Fusion Application Server... The default
> serverid, You must change it.. Also it transforms all likes like
> Hotmail to
> single quote instead of doublequotes
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:15 AM
> Subject: Re: CGI Referrer variable stream and AOL crap.
>
>
> > >Read up on all the crappy changes like blocked Cold Fusion Application
> > >server, and all that... http://webmaster.info.aol.com/
> >
> > I couldn't find anything here about blocked cold fusion... And I
> > tried searching for 'cold fusion', 'cold', and 'fusion' and still
> > found nothing... If AOL is blocking cfm pages somehow please tell
> > me about it.
> >
> > RPS
> >
> >
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