This will be the last reply to this, since we are so far off topic, and this is also to the other poster as well.
I'm fully aware of the how it works and if you run it in this mode or that mode... I forget now what the argument was but what i said was simply that osx is more secure that windows, especially straight out of the box and if you dont have Dave Watts sitting there watching it. Then all the ms ppl start saying that what I and the others said was that osx/unix/linus etc is 100% secure, fyi~ that was never said, thats just the typical ms users responce. The statement "is more secure than windows" is a pretty broad statement to be sure, hell my 90 year old grandma walking with her cane and with a clear bag filled with a million dollars in $100 bills walking through harlem at midnight is less of a security risk that windows. I remember an article where they plugged in a new pc outta the box straight to the net and did the same with a mac and within minutes the pc was compromised and of course that mac wasnt. All us mac ppl run them without all the virus, spyware, etc protection, 24/7 all the time. And be my guest and feel brave and turn off your anti-virus and leave puter on and go to bed and see how secure your os is.. K found some of them old articles: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/0,2000061744,39200021,00.htm http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/1511 http://news.com.com/Study:+Unpatched+PCs+compromised+in+20+minutes/2100-7349_3-5313402.html Even I wouldnt have believed those if it hadnt happened to me. One time while re-installing I forgot to unplug dsl line and before i could even load anti-virus i went down again and that was in the middle of the boondocks kentucky. Again, none of us ever said osx or the others mentioned were 100% secure but they are way more secure than windows and thats to be sure! And if you have the right to tout windows junk then i have the right to tout osx stuff, just cause ur on windows doesnt give u more of a right to tout your os the only right it gives you is the right to freely and frequently use the key combo ctrl-alt-delete ;)~ " tomagically disappear with a wave of Steve Jobs' magic wand." Hummm, lets see who's wand should I be more willing to trust.... Steves or Bills.....???? Hell Bill see's the writing on the wall with his os, hence his retirement ;)~ ~Dave - formerly known as "the disruptor"~ ---------------------------------------- From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 12:40 PM To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Sticking with CF... > why dont you guys get that its not a damn pc, if a virus gets in it > really cant go anywhere, it doesnt destroy the whole system like a > crappy pc, maybe someday one will but that day aint today. And if it > that was the case then why is ms desperately trying to make winblows > security so much like the unix model? If a user doesn't have administrative permissions, you're right - the virus can't destroy the system. It can only mess with the things the user has rights to - that user's data. Of course, for most users, the data is what's important - the system is just a way to create and maintain that data. If a user does have administrative permissions, or can be convinced to grant them to a program, that program will then have administrative permissions. In OS X (and Vista), by default, users run without administrative permissions, but when they're needed the OS prompts for an administrative password. Do you really think the majority of computer users today wouldn't just go ahead and enter the password, if they know it? And, of course, they'll need to know it if they're going to install software themselves. It's nice that you like your Mac, really, but that shouldn't blind you to the real problems in computer security, which can't just be made to magically disappear with a wave of Steve Jobs' magic wand. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:244725 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
