Hi Dave,

Yeah, change away :-). Your work is fantastic - it must be it has great
backing!

Mostly is was frustration about not finding what I wanted/needed to know.
In fact what you just posted could be on the site and go a long way to help!

I think the fact I had to jump from one site to another to find out other
peoples views was extremely annoying. And yes, docs, or lack of online, was
certainly in this mix!

Thanks,  do the great informative post - I will soldier on!

Thanks

N
  






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-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Talk <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue Jul 11 01:14:17 2006
Subject: Re: Coldspring

>I have been reviewing Coldspring recently and to be honest - I don't get it
>:-) even after reading all the necessary blog entries (NOT from the website
>itself I may add, which is piss poor). 

Neil,

Thanks for the excellent feedback. We'll make those improvements ASAP!

Seriously, what exactly is "piss-poor" about our website? Are you unable to
find what you are looking for? Are you specifically referring to the docs?

>
>What if, anything does it give me? What does it do which a good solid
design
>doesn't? I cannot find any solid examples which explain it all.
>

It gives you a way to implement your good solid design without introducing
unneccessary coupling between your components. It doesn't generate your
application model or really force anything upon you, but I would say it
"suggests" that you to write better code because it makes you think of your
CFCs as logical working entities that collaborate with other. Using
ColdSpring will remove all the "create and configure" code from your system
(because collaborating components are injected into one-another "ready to
use").

ColdSpring then builds upon this foundation with a framework for
aspect-oriented programming, extensions for remoting, and good integration
with existing MVC front-end frameworks like Model-Glue and Mach-ii. Of
course, as you mentioned, MG2 incorporates ColdSpring, and the
inner-workings of the framework itself are actually wired together using
ColdSpring (but that doesn't really matter to an end-user).

As mentioned, Sean's presentation is a good starter, you can also pull my
slides from CFUNITED here:
http://www.d-ross.org/index.cfm?objectid=24CC1D9F-BD25-9A13-02D897961EE7EBEF


HTH

Dave Ross
http://www.coldspringframework.org



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