yeah right, you pay dearly for all that holyness.  :)   That and wonderful
FAU is around the corner ...my ug alma mater!  go Owls!  lol!

ww1 looks much better Peter.

DK

On 8/1/06, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For living in PBA you should be making a TON more...especially when you're
> working at such an expensive school.
>
> I used to have lots of friends that went there. Outrageous how much they
> charge.
>
> <!----------------//------
> andy matthews
> web developer
> certified advanced coldfusion programmer
> ICGLink, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 615.370.1530 x737
> --------------//--------->
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PETER SHEATS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Advanced Developer Average Salary
>
>
> Yeah, the average price of single family homes in PB county was around
> 400K a few months ago.  Right now the market is dead though, like most
> of the country - we'll see what happens.
>
> I agree that getting my CF Cert isn't all that big of a deal - even if I
> had failed the test I would have been glad I did it because it made me
> learn about a lot of the things in CF that I have never needed to use.
> However, my boss and HR and the VP of Business don't know anything about
> web programming so I'm using the Cert as a way to prove to them that I
> do know what I'm doing - since this is my first job out of College.
>
> And for any of you who may have checked out www.pba.edu please don't
> judge me based on that horrendous site, I inherited.  The new one can be
> found at www1.pba.edu - I started the project about 2 years ago and
> we're hoping to launch this month.  I can't believe how slow things
> happen at Higher Education institutions.
>
> Thanks for the survey and for everyone who responded,
>
> Peter Sheats
>
> Webmaster
> Palm Beach Atlantic University
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 561.803.2033
>
> "Maturity comes from obedience to Christ, not necessarily from age." --
> Leonard Ravenhill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:54 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Advanced Developer Average Salary
>
> yeah, PBC Florida has skyrocketed in housing prices.  I'm originally
> from there, my family has seen their property values triple in the past
> 4 years alone.  Where PBA is located, well, good freakin luck finding
> anything affordable, with a view of Palm Beach across the way everything
> is costly.
> Used to see Trumps, now Ivanan's, yacht there quite a bit.  Of course
> there is always tamarind ave area... ;)
>
> DK
>
> On 8/1/06, PETER SHEATS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a fun option.
> >
> > I'm not really holding my breath.  It's my first job and I'm using it
> > mostly to gain experience.  There is a lot of flexibility and freedom
> > to use time to learn new technologies and languages.  Right now they
> > are paying for some .NET training for me as well and need me to work
> > on a new portal they bought using c# so I'm considering staying at
> > least a year to get some good experience doing that.
> >
> > However, none of that helps when you have to pay living expenses in
> > South Florida.  As soon as we launch our new site I'll be ready to
> > move on but if I can negotiate a better salary I would be content for
> > a little longer.
> >
> > Thanks for the sources... monster.com has a little salary wizard and I
>
> > had used salary.com in the past.  I guess I was hoping for anything
> > more specific to CF programming since the recent certification is my
> > biggest ammo.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Peter Sheats
> >
> > Webmaster
> > Palm Beach Atlantic University
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 561.803.2033
> >
> > "Maturity comes from obedience to Christ, not necessarily from age."
> > -- Leonard Ravenhill
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:06 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Advanced Developer Average Salary
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PETER SHEATS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 01 August 2006 15:21
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Advanced Developer Average Salary
> > >
> > > Hey Everyone,
> > >
> > > I recently took my CF 7 test and got an 88% (I used the CFMX Exam
> > > Buster sold by centrasoft.com which really helped in case anyone is
> > > planning on taking the test soon).
> > >
> > > Anyway, I was wondering if anyone can point me to any resources that
>
> > > I
> >
> > > can use to show my boss what the average salary is for Coldfusion
> > Developers.
> > > I
> > > work at a higher education institution and salaries right now are
> > > kind
> >
> > > of low, and they know it but it's a struggle to get them to do
> > > anything about it.
> >
> > To be blunt I wouldn't hold your breath.  Companies, in general, are
> > going to pay as low as they can and stick with it.  If you're
> > accepting that paycheck then they have no reason to move.
> >
> > I've been with the same company for over 10 years now... but the only
> > way I've ever gotten substantial raises is to leave the company (at a
> > raise) for a few months and then get hired back (at another raise) or
> > move on.
> >
> > I've only made this cycle once (I'm quite comfortable where I am now)
> > but I know others, especially management, that has bounced in and out
> > upwards of
> > 3-5 times.
> >
> > It takes a decade and can be really painful (moving, learning new
> > cultures,
> > etc) or so but you can end up at a much higher salary point than you
> > would have been had you stayed pat.  Of course it's also a huge
> > gamble... so you could end up a swing-shift manager at McDonald's.
> >
> > Jim Davis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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