Always depend on who the contract is being done for though.  Most of the
places I have worked for always give us(the contractors) basically full
access to the DB in development and no access to production except special
cases where they give simple select access.  I have done work for some
government agencies that required all queries to be within SPs and would
imagine other places have similar requirements.

On 8/27/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> While on that subject, a lot of people insist that everythig should be
> done
> with SP's wherever possible.
> While this is indeed a good idea for long/complex queries that will see
> vastly improved performance and speed, but I think it is wrong to do it
> just
> for the sake of it, and to put basic select or other small queries etc
> into
> SP's.
> One of the primary reasons being that where contractors are involved, they
> will often have access to the CFML only and not the database server, and
> thus cannot access the stored proc, which can seriously slow down
> development time while they wait for the DBA to send them a copy of the
> SP,
> and then change it, send it back to the DBA, wait for him to apply it etc.
> Also it is in general a pain if you need to do quick fixes or updates on
> code in general. Usually it is easy to gain access to the code via FTP
> from
> wherever you are as this is generally an open port, but not to the DB
> server, as you will either need remote access to port 1433 or remote
> desktop
> access. neither of which may be obtained quickly or easily as they
> should/would be blocked from the outside world via a firewall.
>
> Just my 2p
>
> Snake
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 27 August 2006 13:42
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Top 100 ColdFusion Programmers
>
> Again, and the point has been echoed by James, is that the all-rounder
> should know both.
>
> I am not saying that SPs etc (not that has anything to do with you level
> of
> SQL per se) are what you should know, we all know that ColdFusion can do a
> lot with loops and SQL but if you have no choice but to use SQL in a job,
> you will be stuffed if all you know SELECT.
>
>
>
>
> 

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