Cheers Rey, sterling work.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Rey Bango
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Thu Aug 31 20:36:41 2006
Subject: Re: Ajax - Whats everybody using?

Go to my blog:

http://www.reybango.com

I've kept a list there.

Rey...

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> Has anyone done a definitive list of the best frameworks we are all using?
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> By 0 to 60 I am referring to the learning curve. Backbase has a steep one.
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> Exactly on the pricing. If they had reasonable pricing for not just large 
> corp's, they might have a better adoption because it is very robust.
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>>Yep, I have used it extentively and I love it. You described it to a tee. 
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>>is an application framework not a library in the sense of other listings. 
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>>is a Flex HTML rival. It is not aiming to be an plug n play js library.
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>>What is all this nonsense about 0 to 60? :-)
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>>It's debugging is amazing, it has all the features you can think of, but
>>again, as you rightly note it is expensive. But as they noted, large
>>companies such as ours do not care about 5K :-)
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>>If money is not your concern and you want to build an RIA app, not just an
>>Ajax tool then it should be considered.
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>>Subject: Re: Ajax - Whats everybody using?
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>>Neil, Backbase is more robust, I'll give it that, but have you used it.
>>Speaking specifically about 0 to 60, Backbase is horrible. It takes you
>>completely away from your normal way of handling xhtml and attempts to
>>provide MXML/XAML functionality. The things it can do are pretty
>>amazing/great but their implementation simply isn't desireable AND the 
>>price
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>>is ridiculous.When I spoke to them about it the reps answer was (in my
>>words; it has been some months since I spoke to them) "the big companies
>>don't mind the price." We went round and round but ultimately he said to
>>wait a few weeks for an announcement regarding the community edition.
>>Anyways, Backbase forces you to change your entire infrastructure and base
>>it around them. For Ajax, that isn't desireable.
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>>I doubt Tom is using Spry because it is free. Spry is a great tool and 0 
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>>60, as I said, it is #1 in my book. Most ajax toolkits are free and those
>>that cost, to me, aren't worth it. You can grab a DHTML library and
>>something like JSMX and rival Backbase, or others, any day.
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>>Disclaimer:
>>That is all IMO. :-)
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>>>That only cause it is free? I would say Backbase is better than Spry but
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>>>Sent: 31 August 2006 11:36
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: Re: Ajax - Whats everybody using?
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>>>On Thursday 31 August 2006 05:21, Rey Bango wrote:
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>>>>For those doing Ajax work in conjunction with CF, I'd like to know what
>>>>framework(s) you're using.
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>>>Flex2 :-)
>>>More seriously, if I were doing a DHTML project I'd pick Spry.
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