> On Thursday 21 September 2006 15:33, Joe FitzGerald wrote:
> > so.  In this case, it would definitely be illegal because the people
> > displaying the information do not have permission to share the 
> > information with anyone else
> 
> It's on their web site, freely accessable, no ?
> Tough - you are free to do what you want with it.

Apparently you aren't familiar with copyright laws.  Just because you can see 
something doesn't give you the right to use it in any way you'd like -- at 
least not legally speaking which is what I was referring to...  By all means, 
go ahead and scrape away.  Unless you are making money off the information -- 
or they can show they lost money because of you -- then you likely wouldn't be 
liable for damages although they would certainly be able to shut your website 
down.  Of course, if your site earns any revenue or if they earn revenue on 
their site (which they surely do), then they'll come after you for the money 
and they'll get it.  Copyright law.  Look it up.

> > This isn't tv guide data where the information producers actively want to 
> > push their schedule information out to the public  
> 
> Not heard about ITV over in the UK then ? They refuse to give out 
> their listings info for free except on their own web site. Despite having 
> done so for years.

What I was suggesting is simply that there are some types of information that 
publishers offer freely because they've determined it is in their best interest 
to do so.  Others choose to restrict the use of their published materials for 
the same reason.  Either way, it is the publishers choice -- not the reader's 
choice.

Any company who believes that because they can access a webpage means they have 
the right to do with it as they please will not likely be very successful in 
the web world because as soon as they attain any level of success with that 
model, the copyright holders will shut them down and take all their money -- it 
isn't a good business model.

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