can i ask how other people get around the dateformat, or any suggesstions on 
how i can get around it, as i am finding more and more that the dateformat 
function just doesnt work. it switches between formatting my dates from 
dd/mm/yyyy and mm/dd/yyyy even though i specify a format of dd/mm/yyyy

i would really appreciate any help as i am a bit stuck and alot of my 
application is based around dates

thanks very much for any help

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