>>he wouold see that the login form that works is
called login.aspx,

OK, can you just tell me where you see that?

 >>and then submits to itself.

Supposing it is so, is it a problem?

 >>But what Claude didn't see
was the fact that the cfhttp was sending the field submit button.

So what? Is it forbidden? Some form action may check the value of the 
submit button,
especially if there are several submit buttons in the form, so I assume 
Michael was trying
to emulate the form as close as possible. Sending the submit button 
value is just an attempt
to tell the form action the button was clicked.
It may not work, but I doubt the problem is here.
 
There may be plenty of reasons why a login fails if not coming from the 
real form.
For instance, the server could refuse login to a browser with Javascript 
not enabled.
Michael tries to make believe that the CF server is actually a Mozilla 
client,
but a more picky (pickier?) script which check for Javascript enabled 
would not be fooled.

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