> The weird thing to me is that you can't get it to happen in a 
> different browser when CF is the one processing the info and sending 
> html to the browser. Just a long shot but try it two ways... hitting 
> enter to submit and actually clicking the submit button with your 
> mouse. hitting enter will cause the submit form field variable to be 
> undefined but clicking it will not...
> 
> 
  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
  
> From: Burns, John D 
  
> To: CF-Talk 
  
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:50 PM
  
> Subject: RE: "Undefined in Form" when using MSIE
> 
> 
  
> As weird as this may sound (and possibly uneducated) is there any 
> chance
  
> that it's CF losing the form scope somehow (or maybe it's there but 
> for
  
> some reason CF isn't able to read it)?  It seems like a lot of people 
> on
  
> the list have mentioned this problem.  Have we narrowed down the CF
  
> version being used when this is happening?  I'd think that if IE had 
> a
  
> problem like this that there would be a lot more people complaining 
> in
  
> the web world.  Maybe there are and I just haven't heard it.  Just a
  
> thought.
> 
  
> John Burns 
> 
  
> -----Original Message-----
  
> From: Nick Han [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:41 PM
  
> To: CF-Talk
  
> Subject: Re: "Undefined in Form" when using MSIE
> 
  
> I have had the same problem with my sites and raised the subject in 
> this
  
> list before.  I guess there's no real fix as far as a patch to fix IE.
> 
  
> The kluge I have to prevent the processing page from erring out on a
  
> post action, when this mysterious bug occurs.
> 
  
> Before processing the submitted form, I do this. 
> 
  
> <cfif StructIsEmpty(form)>
    
> do a js back.
    
> <cfabort>
  
> </cfif>
> 
  
> Nick Han
> 
  
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 12:26PM >>>
  
> We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message "element
  
> XXXXX undefined in form" when using MSIE 6.0.  (XXXXX represents the
  
> names of various form variables and is always the first form variable
  
> referenced in the action file.)  This problem cannot be duplicated 
> using
  
> Netscape.  When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope 
> variable
  
> section "Form Names" does not exist and thus indicating no form
  
> variables are passed through.  The form is submitted without error 
> about
  
> 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and
  
> values.  When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen 
> and
  
> the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must
  
> refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are
  
> present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for 
> some
  
> reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences.  This
  
> problem is not isolated to just one form either.  It randomly occurs 
> on
  
> numerous forms i!
  
> n various applications.

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