Some good points there about having to adapt to any new tool, I tried
a few times to change to using CFEclipse and failed because I was
trying to make it work exactly the way I was used to working. Once I
had got it into my head that I would have to adapt slightly and adopt
the project model of working everything started to make a lot more
sense.

I think that if  there was one thing you could do to make CFEclipse
easier to change to it would be an idiots guide to the CFeclipse way
of working - with lots of pictures and not too many long words :)

Good presentation at CFDevcon by the way, I was with three colleagues
that had never seen CFEclipse before and they were all raving about it
after.

On 14/11/06, Mark Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess with any *new* thing there is a learning curve, and people
> showing you how to use it always helps.
>
> I am thinking of running some session on CFEclipse, mainly if people
> are interested on how to convert to it...
>
> FYI: if you dont like working with projects, we went to all the
> trouble and effort to put a File Explorer that works like homeSite so
> no excuse there.
>
> At my presentation at CFDevCon, I asked a question that sometimes
> when I read this list I have to remind myself, "Who wouldn't use
> CFEclipse even if I PAID them?". There are people that are not going
> to change whatever we do to make your coding life easier.
>
> Even if it got to the stage of "Just talk to CFEclipse, it will
> listen and nod, then go and write your application for you whilst you
> have coffee (using YOUR crazy coding habits)" there would still be
> people out there going "But I like homesite... it didnt LISTEN to
> me... I LIKED that!".
>
>   Its just the way some people are used to their tools. Personally I
> am pretty adaptable (oh, in textMate the Ctrl + Shift + L inserts a
> link? cool.. must remember that, rather than emailing the person and
> saying to change the dammed shortcut y'hear, or I WONT use your FREE
> product.. so nyer!) so I like learning new tools, seeing what they
> can do and then using the right tool for the job.
>
> The benefits of CFEclipse projects are that once you have all your
> files grouped into projects you can do fast searches for a file, or
> in a file (thats in a selection, in a project, or in the whole dammed
> workbench, or even just in one of your selection sets!) pretty
> easily... just because the gui isn't what you expected (dammit, you
> CHANGED tools what do you expect???), adapt.
>
> Anyway.. wasn't meant to be a rant... and please dont take it as
> so... (read it with the tongue in the cheek that it was written in)
>
> MD
> (back to coding tools with REALLY odd shortcuts and the craziest
> interfaces to piss people off)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 13 Nov 2006, at 15:42, Cutter (CFRelated) wrote:
>
> > What, you think CFEclipse doesn't have keyboard shortcuts? Come on
> > Rick,
> > time to catch up buddy;)
> >
> > Cutter
> > ____________
> > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
> >
> > Rick Root wrote:
> >> Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Would have to have a test, but to be honest I haven't "hand
> >>> coded" a comment
> >>> in years... That's what Eclipse is for they make it easy with a
> >>> click of a
> >>> button :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Taking my fingers off the keyboard to use the mouse while coding
> >> annoys
> >> me.  IT's easier (for me) to just type <!--- foo ---> than it is
> >> to stop
> >> typing, grab the mouse, click some button, then type in my comment.
> >>
> >> My constant use of keyboard shortcuts is what makes it difficult
> >> for me
> >> to move to cfeclipse from homesite+.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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