Some good points there about having to adapt to any new tool, I tried a few times to change to using CFEclipse and failed because I was trying to make it work exactly the way I was used to working. Once I had got it into my head that I would have to adapt slightly and adopt the project model of working everything started to make a lot more sense.
I think that if there was one thing you could do to make CFEclipse easier to change to it would be an idiots guide to the CFeclipse way of working - with lots of pictures and not too many long words :) Good presentation at CFDevcon by the way, I was with three colleagues that had never seen CFEclipse before and they were all raving about it after. On 14/11/06, Mark Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess with any *new* thing there is a learning curve, and people > showing you how to use it always helps. > > I am thinking of running some session on CFEclipse, mainly if people > are interested on how to convert to it... > > FYI: if you dont like working with projects, we went to all the > trouble and effort to put a File Explorer that works like homeSite so > no excuse there. > > At my presentation at CFDevCon, I asked a question that sometimes > when I read this list I have to remind myself, "Who wouldn't use > CFEclipse even if I PAID them?". There are people that are not going > to change whatever we do to make your coding life easier. > > Even if it got to the stage of "Just talk to CFEclipse, it will > listen and nod, then go and write your application for you whilst you > have coffee (using YOUR crazy coding habits)" there would still be > people out there going "But I like homesite... it didnt LISTEN to > me... I LIKED that!". > > Its just the way some people are used to their tools. Personally I > am pretty adaptable (oh, in textMate the Ctrl + Shift + L inserts a > link? cool.. must remember that, rather than emailing the person and > saying to change the dammed shortcut y'hear, or I WONT use your FREE > product.. so nyer!) so I like learning new tools, seeing what they > can do and then using the right tool for the job. > > The benefits of CFEclipse projects are that once you have all your > files grouped into projects you can do fast searches for a file, or > in a file (thats in a selection, in a project, or in the whole dammed > workbench, or even just in one of your selection sets!) pretty > easily... just because the gui isn't what you expected (dammit, you > CHANGED tools what do you expect???), adapt. > > Anyway.. wasn't meant to be a rant... and please dont take it as > so... (read it with the tongue in the cheek that it was written in) > > MD > (back to coding tools with REALLY odd shortcuts and the craziest > interfaces to piss people off) > > > > > > > > On 13 Nov 2006, at 15:42, Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > > > What, you think CFEclipse doesn't have keyboard shortcuts? Come on > > Rick, > > time to catch up buddy;) > > > > Cutter > > ____________ > > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com > > > > Rick Root wrote: > >> Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > >> > >>> Would have to have a test, but to be honest I haven't "hand > >>> coded" a comment > >>> in years... That's what Eclipse is for they make it easy with a > >>> click of a > >>> button :) > >> > >> > >> Taking my fingers off the keyboard to use the mouse while coding > >> annoys > >> me. IT's easier (for me) to just type <!--- foo ---> than it is > >> to stop > >> typing, grab the mouse, click some button, then type in my comment. > >> > >> My constant use of keyboard shortcuts is what makes it difficult > >> for me > >> to move to cfeclipse from homesite+. > >> > >> Rick > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:260458 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

