On 1/14/07, John C. Bland II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ruby is a programming language (from the 90's or so) that was used a lot as
> an alternative to perl server scripts. A few years back a framework was
> built that gave RoR tons of publicity. I think some of the shine came off
> when they had a gaping security hole in which they demanded that people
> upgrade to the latest revision (was kinda funny the way they approached it).
> In 2 or 3 days they pushed out like 2 or 3 patches. Regardless of that it is
> still a very lightweight, fast, and speedy (to dev' in) language/framework.

That's a bizarre piece of FUD. It's like saying "I think some of the
shine came off ColdFusion when that ToysRUs site performed so poorly"
or "Now that Adobe/Macromedia/whoever owns CF it's doomed" etc. Or all
the FUD about poorly written PHP/CF/whatever apps that are vulnerable
to cross-site scripting attacks and/or SQL injection (heck, even
*gMail* has had a significant security issue if you feel like your
contact list should be private).

For anyone who cares about the details surround this particular issue,
it's summarized here
http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2006/8/10/rails-1-1-6-backports-and-full-disclosure

I'll also point out that the Rails folks can't *force* anyone to
upgrade -- what they did was refuse to point out the specific problem
or release demo code of the exploit until people had a chance to
patch, but since the project is open source and the SVN repository is
publically available, it's easy enough to run a diff and see what
changed.

I'd suggest that the whole process in general was a good example of
the *point* of open source -- major problem was identified, code was
*quickly* patched to prevent problem, other problems were identified,
and code was patched again, not to mention that the community feedback
on the process was incorporated into the way future incidents are/were
handled.

-- 
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
(blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com
(email) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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