Damn, I just can't seem to stay away from this thread and get any work 
done. :o)

Mary Jo Sminkey wrote:
>> We're talking about test questions here. Not a novel, or even a book 
>> that contains *original* thoughts and musings as you suggest in your 
>> example. 
>>     
>
> Doesn't matter. You can't decide on your own that someone else's work is more 
> or less deserving of copyright protection. The law already does that. 
>
>   
As I stated in another thread, I'm arguing what I think the law ought to 
be; not what it is.
>   
>> I remember some good questions that were asked on a test that 
>> I took once upon a time and I pull those tests out and use a few of the 
>> questions verbatim on my test. Have I done anything wrong?
>>     
>
> Actually, fair use probably would probably allow this anyway. But there's 
> also a difference in protection of copyright when it is something that 
> someone makes money off of. Legally, both have copyright, but in terms of 
> damages from infringement, it really has to be shown that there are monetary 
> damages. I doubt the questions from an old test would fulfill such a test. 
>
>
>   
>> I realize this is probably contrary to what the law says, but 
>> hey... I'm not a lawyer), test questions aren't (or at least shouldn't 
>> be) intellectual property.
>>     
>
> Sorry, the law does not agree. 
Duh -- didn't I just say, "I realize this is probably contrary to what 
the law says". ;o) I don't need an apology from you, so I don't see why 
you said you were sorry.
> It's one thing to have a single question that is the same. But we're talking 
> a large number of questions all worded exactly the same as Brian's. There 
> would be little difficulty in proving that it was a clear case of copyright 
> infringement. 
>
>   
But if they were jumbled up in a different order and a word or two had 
been changed he'd be okay, right?
>   
>> Do we seriously 
>> think that another intelligent human being setting out to make a test 
>> might not think of the same question? 
>>     
>
> Copyright law allows for this. One of the reasons copyright cases are so 
> expensive to try is that you have to prove that the material is derivative 
> enough from the original that it could not possibly be an original work. 
>
> I'm not even sure why this debate has come up. Ben admitted he infringed, 
> it's not even a question. 
>
>
>   
Because it's interesting. Didn't you see the very first post? And 
besides debate is healthy. It's what makes free nations great.
>> Next, do you realize that you've blatantly plagiarized my intellectual 
>> property below? You used my exact words in the precise order that I 
>> wrote them, but did not give me credit.
>>     
>
> Commenting on or criticizing another person's words clearly comes under Fair 
> Use. 
>   
Give me a break Mary Jo, I was *obviously* being facetious. Are you a 
lawyer? You sound like a lawyer. ;o)

Okay, I'm really going back to work this time! Everyone probably hates 
my guts by now anyway. :o)

Cheers,
Chris
> --- Mary Jo
>
> 

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