> However, for the 5-10 person development shop (which most 
> development companies are) this is not a practical solution. 
> It would cost more to set up the infrastructure for this then 
> it would to simply deal with the extremely rare patch 
> problems when they arise.

Most development shops may be that small, but they don't account for the
majority of developers, I suspect. Most companies that I've worked with do,
in fact, have this sort of environment, and it's integral to their
development process. How else do you test the software you write? And,
except for hardware-specific stuff, you can do this pretty cheaply and
easily through virtualization.

> Maybe he did miss your point, but it looks to me like you are 
> also missing his. Why pay for something that you have to 
> learn - when you could just learn it without having to pay 
> for it before-hand?

The syntax is nearly identical, and it's available for free. But, that's
irrelevant. If someone asked me to recommend web server software, and the
most important thing they were looking for is the ability to rewrite URLs,
I'd unhesitatingly recommend Apache. On the other hand, if someone was
already using IIS and needed to rewrite URLs all of a sudden, I probably
wouldn't recommend they switch web servers just for that ability.

> You contradict yourself here Dave. You just spent an entire 
> email stating what differences there were (differences that 
> do indeed effect web developers) and then you say that 
> there's no substantive difference.
> There's plenty of substantive difference - as you've 
> illustrated in favor of IIS.

I listed differences, but I don't think they're substantive for most web
developers.

> I personally see nothing wrong with taking time to learn 
> something that could potentially save my company time and 
> money - and how will I know for sure unless I explore those 
> options? I think that is all most people are trying to do 
> when they post things to this list regarding non-MS software. 
> Quite frankly, I don't understand why you are so against 
> learning about your alternatives. I don't know about you, but 
> I like learning new things even if it's just for the sake of 
> learning. It's part of why I enjoy the technology industry so 
> much. So why not put that effort somewhere that would be 
> beneficial to me and my company?

If every time someone posted a problem they were having with Apache, would
the appropriate response be to say that IIS beats the pants off Apache, and
they should switch? If someone has a problem with doing something in CF,
should I suggest ASP.NET or PHP instead? Or is evangelism only appropriate
when suggesting a replacement for MS products?

I don't have anything against learning new things, but I don't care at all
for the evangelism. If someone says "Apache beats the pants off IIS, but it
has a learning curve", they should be prepared to accept the obvious
response that ease of use has value. All of the arguments that you've made
against IIS are the same sort of arguments people generally make against CF,
and if CF has proven anything, it's the value of ease of use.

> However, seeing as I tent to avoid MS-related technology, I 
> haven't dealt with it much.

I thought you liked learning new things. Why are you so against learning
about your alternatives?

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

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