On 2/7/07, Eric Haskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >and neither is that fact that ASP/PHP code is more
> >complicated and therefore will have more bugs.

That's a fairly ridiculous assertion -- first of all that one specific
language is more complicated than another and second that complexity =
bugs. One could makes all sorts of similar unsupported arguments that
we've all heard:

"PHP is less prone to bugs because it's open"
"PHP is more prone to bugs because it's open"
"ASP is more prone to bugs because it's on Windows"
etc, etc

Some of the most common bugs I've seen in web apps I've dealt with
(commercial, open souce, and inhouse) tend to be simple user error
like not checking parameters for type/content (eg SQL injection).
Other common errors are off-by-one errors in loops and simply bad
logic. Few programming languages prevent a developer from doing
something dumb that causes a bug.

> I find the opposite Russ coming from PHP to CF Cf is alot more verbose than
> PHP. I am learning CF as I work for a CF shop FullTime as a Web Systems
> Developer. Cant speak for ASP
>
>
> >I don't think PHP has any sort of session management, so it's not even a
> >contender in the enterprise world.
>
> Can you elaborate on this?? I use session vars all the time in php. I have
> done apps for Verizon that are php.

The assertions CF folks make about open source always just make me cringe.

Of *course* PHP has session management, and quite frankly some far
more sophisticated options including session clustering that actually
works under load (eg memcached) as opposed to the JRun session
clustering that has known issues with performance thanks to what it's
doing with JINI and who knows what else. Plus you've got more options
about where you store the session (eg files on the server instead of
database or memory directly).

<rant>
In the past few days, I've seen far too many posts that didn't even
take the time to Wikipedia/google/whatever before making assertions
about open source licenses, the capabilities of languages they've
never used, or even verify or source statments that were "the truth".

Please check your facts, even just briefly before you post. Or save as
a draft, come back an hour later, and still see if you want to post
it.
</rant>

Send your complaints about the rant to /dev/null :)
-- 
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
(blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com
(email) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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