Yikes, wasn't expecting this big a response! (If only it was full of people saying "YES!")
> Matt Quackenbush wrote: > At the risk of sounding like a complete [EMAIL PROTECTED]&!, why would > >anyone< want to go > backwards and use Railo? I mean, it's still not even compatible with CF > MX. I'm sure I speak for an extremely high percentage of CFers out there > when I say, "Thank God we're not in the pre-MX days anymore!" (For those > who never were in the pre-MX days, trust me, you're happy about it.) There are plenty of reasons to use Railo, but before I get into that, can you give an example of an important CFMX feature that Railo lacks? It doesn't support cfapplet, but I never use cfapplet and can't see me ever wanting to. Ditto cfcache, cfchart, cfgrid, cfreport, cftree. If you're someone that requires those tags then maybe Railo isn't for you, but it certainly isn't a pre-MX compiler! Now, getting back to why would anyone want to move forwards onto Railo, I've created an entry on my weblog to cover five features I like that Railo has over CFMX. - cfdump/eval - cffile/info - cfloop/file - Array/Struct/Query creation - Resources You can read the full thing here: http://blog.bpsite.net/index.php/Why%20Railo.html?itemid=24 If these plus the things Gert went into are not enough to convince you that Railo is not simply a viable option, but also a serious contender, then I'm happy to go on and on about all the great things which Railo has to offer - just say the word. ;) > Dale Fraser wrote: > All those items you list are only relevant to hosting providers, Just wanted to highlight this point, because Railo is good for hosting. With CF shared hosting, users don't have Administrator access, and often have to ask their hosts for datasources. Railo Enterprise comes with an overall server Admin, AND a seperate Admin for each webroot. If this wasn't the case, I wouldn't be asking here if people wanted Railo CFML hosting - I'd be going to my photography club and asking if anyone wanted photo hosting instead. > Doug Brown wrote: > Just a side note, or question...What reasons do people think that asp/php has > the stronghold on web development ASP - because it's Microsoft. PHP - because it's free, and an improvement over CGI/Perl. > and what can be done to make CF just as popular? > > A. Better performing code > B. Cheaper development > C. Cheaper hosting > D. Other (Explain) A: Yup. (Railo!) B: Yup. (Railo!) C: Yup. (Railo! ...well, if I get enough interest to go ahead :P ) D: Okay, there are a few repeated things that I encounter when trying to promote CF in the past: 1) Many people don't believe it's a proper language. They think it's a lightweight markup language, not a fully-featured powerful scripting language. 2) The tags put people off. For some reason people seem to like ambiguous C-style curly brackets, and the starting-with-cf bit isn't popular. 3) Because of the tags, it's often perceived that CFML must be mixed in with HTML. 4) The price - many (most?) people in the CF world aren't even aware of Railo/BlueDragon/Smith, so trying to point out to non-CFers that there are low price and free solutions often doesn't get anywhere. To make it popular, these need to be countered, along with re-affirming the main benefits. Someone with Flash skills should make a viral promotional meme thingy that does this, and then CF can take over the world! *insert hysterical laughter* :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269071 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
